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    one could argue that the job a trash man does is much more essential and has a far greater effect on your life than anything a modern day soldier is doing.

    This.

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    On another note, Russia is apparently going to send bombers on a training run to the Gulf of Mexico.

    http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/13/world/...l?c=homepage-t

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    Agree! Two things get you elected: a) Israel (NOT AMERICA but Israel) b) Corporation (Not the public)

    Just sad.

    Cities in the state can’t afford to pay their water bill now, but these bloodthirsty politicians spend billions on weaponry. Interesting statistic is that the US spends more on arms than the next 8 countries combined.

    Something interesting here, compare the drug trades out of Afghanistan during Taliban’s reign and now with America’s reign as per the UN.
    All of what you said is very true, tell them to put that on the News everyday and let the public see what is really going on and I guarantee you they change their perspective on this country and how clean they make it out to be. The paint the others as the bad guys, but who is the real killers and criminals? Might shock some.

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    I agree with Sean here.

    Even if I'm not American, or related to anyone, basically, in that country, unlike many people from around the globe I've met who criticize US' political situation and foreign policies, I would really like to see the country overcoming all these problems and becoming a better, more just, honest and prosperous nation. A great deal of people, as I said, will actually enjoy watching the US go crumbling down one day. And it's hard for me some times to make these people realize how much harm would that scenario bring to so many people, many of them good, honest Americans, who are no different from any other human been around the world, but also to a great deal of people in other places. But they will hate the US. And it's no terrorist I've been talking to, it's no Talibans or whatever, it's European, South American, Australian middle-class common folks.

    But even if I would like to see the US change, truth be told, it's not looking bright, not bright at all. I'm not even sure there's a way out of this situation not involving the country falling apart.

    I often wonder, what the heck will happen one day when the financial sector refuses to lend any more money to the state, so that the state can pay the next "batch" of debt (financial sector refusing, maybe, because that particular government is acting agains their interests, for example not willing to spend any more money on the military industrial complex).... what will happen?

    Will the state ask for the money to pay the debt to the Chinese government? :O

    Will the state be in default? In that case, what will happen, I mean, the private sector will make sure the state DOES pay, one way or another.... will they force (through the judges which answer to the private sector's interests) the sate to sell (to the very financial sector) every single thing it has, including the white house... will we see a privatized white house one day? Is that the future the establishment has planned for the country?

    Not bright at all. I guess the best thing you can do is being aware of this. Just don't turn a blind eye on it, learn about this if you care about your country for real.

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    one could argue that the job a trash man does is much more essential and has a far greater effect on d life than anything a modern day soldier is doing.
    I wonder why if someone says "my father is a soldier" & " my father is a garbage collection" I see different reaction?
    IRespectable ways to earn a living, but why?
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    All of what you said is very true, tell them to put that on the News everyday and let the public see what is really going on and I guarantee you they change their perspective on this country and how clean they make it out to be. The paint the others as the bad guys, but who is the real killers and criminals? Might shock some.
    Sean, the media is the main reason to dumbify the mass in the first place. Have you watched FOX news, it’s just ridiculous especially when it comes to foreign affairs.

    Another thing man. Seriously Americans need to get rid of all politicians that have Israel & Corporations as priority. How many conflicts are we going to get into just for Israel’s sake?

    Not bright at all. I guess the best thing you can do is being aware of this. Just don't turn a blind eye on it, learn about this if you care about your country for real.
    Arrogance makes you blind, America will crumble due to their arrogance. Sad part is that the public will suffer most.

    I wonder why if someone says "my father is a soldier" & " my father is a garbage collection" I see different reaction?
    I respetable ways to earn a living, but why?
    It’s the stereotype portrayed by the media constantly. Appreciation day, Hollywood movies, commercials, magazines, newspaper article, etc, we are constantly bombarded with this idea.

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    I wonder why if someone says "my father is a soldier" & " my father is a garbage collection" I see different reaction?
    I respetable ways to earn a living, but why?
    Propaganda

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    one could argue that the job a trash man does is much more essential and has a far greater effect on your life than anything a modern day soldier is doing.
    That has nothing to do with whether or not the trash man is risking their life for you, tbh.

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    That has nothing to do with whether or not the trash man is risking their life for you, tbh.
    As I showed earlier in this thread, trash collectors (don't be misogynistic, women can also collect trash) have one of the highest fatality rates of all jobs in 'Murica. So they are risking their life for you.

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    Arrogance makes you blind, America will crumble due to their arrogance. Sad part is that the public will suffer most.
    Oh, yes, indeed. They are the only ones who will suffer, actually. The guys behind the corporations controlling the country will in fact profit from the country in an eventual debacle, they've taken care of that. They'll come up richer and stronger from those events. Common folks, weaker and poorer.

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    Sean, the media is the main reason to dumbify the mass in the first place. Have you watched FOX news, it’s just ridiculous especially when it comes to foreign affairs.

    Another thing man. Seriously Americans need to get rid of all politicians that have Israel & Corporations as priority. How many conflicts are we going to get into just for Israel’s sake?


    Arrogance makes you blind, America will crumble due to their arrogance. Sad part is that the public will suffer most.


    It’s the stereotype portrayed by the media constantly. Appreciation day, Hollywood movies, commercials, magazines, newspaper article, etc, we are constantly bombarded with this idea.
    Good post.

    Oh, yes, indeed. They are the only ones who will suffer, actually. The guys behind the corporations controlling the country will in fact profit from the country in an eventual debacle, they've taken care of that. They'll come up richer and stronger from those events. Common folks, weaker and poorer.
    Greed, Greed and more Greed from those guys, period. They just can't get enough, truly evil people.

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    Oh, yes, indeed. They are the only ones who will suffer, actually. The guys behind the corporations controlling the country will in fact profit from the country in an eventual debacle, they've taken care of that. They'll come up richer and stronger from those events. Common folks, weaker and poorer.
    Good post. Greed, Greed and more Greed from those guys, period. They just can't get enough, truly evil people.
    Sean & itsamanuthree, this is very interesting, have a watch when you guys get a chance.


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    Sean & itsamanuthree, this is very interesting, have a watch when you guys get a chance.
    Very interesting. Thanks.

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    Sean & itsamanuthree, this is very interesting, have a watch when you guys get a chance.

    I am watching now, if they crash the dollar you lose all your savings and so on correct? They make the world one currency then? I have not watched this yet but thinking if they crash the dollar then all you worked for is notta and they further more prove their greed beyond belief to rule the world. It is a sad state of affairs we live in now, it's been planned for a LONG TIME but coming to fruition now, since day one in this country they had their evil plan. Have you read Behold a Pale Horse by William Cooper? X intelligence Navy and Air Force? He told alot of what they were doing and exposed alot in a book and gets defamed later and eventually shot and they said he went nuts, jailed him before etc. That is what happens when you start telling the truth, you mysteriously go nuts or get shot by the cops or arrested etc. They make you look bad.

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    Freedom?

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Condor

    Ona side note, the article in English is biased. The Spanish and Portuguese versions correctly state that Operation Condor was aimed at killing people with left-wing political ideas, which included anything from intellectuals, inquisitive journalists, students claiming for social reforms, artists stating their mind against opression, or simply people who didn't have any other connection with politics than their phone number being written in the phone book of someone who knew someone who knew someone who was against the regime.

    The English article is biased because it limits the political persecution to people supporting communism or with "soviet influences". I mean, killing people because of their support of communism is abhorrent enough already, even if, like me, you don't approve of that political system, but that's not even the case, the Operation was an ideological cleansing, a political genocide aimed at shifting South America's political scenario to the right and keeping its countries subordinated to the US interests, meaning undeveloped (so that the US industry has one less rival), unregulated when it comes to corporations (so that US companies can get there and do whatever they want with the labour force, the enviroment, etc.) and of course, unregulated from an international trade point of view, so that the US companies have easy markets where to put all their products.

    Yes, evil people indeed.

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