He almost makes the same money that the Big 3 are making this year. this rapist's reasoning.
I knew all those dumb threads upstairs from you trolling meant you were a Kobe fan (LA fan but most are really Kobe fanatics).
Kobe don't give a , all the way to 48 Million and taking most of his teams shots and losing horribly at the end of his career while Tim is still competing for les.This is about the stone cold truth, hope he enjoys losing for the rest of his career because that is where that dude belongs.
The last time Kirby wanted to all over the franchise like this, Dr Buss prepared his bags and told him he was going to get his ass traded to the Pistons. Kirby relented.
Dude ain't dumb. He's testing the limits, and now you have a dumb mother er running the mothership.
You can try to convince me about anything on Kobe. But you can't convince me that if Dr Buss would've been around, this was happening. No ing way.
I'm not. What I'm stating is 100% obvious and not an opinion.
Kobe realized he can't take this team to the finals, he knew he doesnt have it anymore. He sold out for the big bucks.
What was the better option? For him to take the minimum just so he could MAAAAAAAAAYBE get to the 2nd round of the playoffs? He sold out, and everyone knows it.
You seriously think Kobe would prefer to take $30 million less for a 'chance' to win? Cmon man, its a business
And that's why the people are mad at him. There's nothing to defend.
He doesn't have to take the minimum, but he also doesn't have to take a franchise-killing deal. Listen, the blame is two-fold. Jimmy is obviously a terrible deal maker (that contract he gave Nash was asinine too).
All I'm saying is Dr Buss wouldn't have let this happen, IMO. Nobody was ever above the franchise with him. Not Shaq, not Phil, not Kobe. I can't think it would've been any different now.
Did u forget who ur talking to? Im not exactly a Kobe defender here. I am mad at him as a fan, the city should be mad at him, the fans should be, the FO should be...but Kobe did the smart move for his life. That's all Im stating, I ing hate that he did that, but it was smart for himself.
Obviously Dr. Buss wouldnt let any of this happen. That's not what u were originally stating, you were stating that it was a dumb move by Kobe to take that contract. I think its extremely selfish, but not dumb.
We agree overall that hes a head and ruined his legacy tho
No, it wasn't all on you. You can say that this is smart with that. But I can also say that it isn't with the reasons that I already mentioned.
I was actually pointing out that the notion of this lakeshow being "2nd round fodder anyways" if he took less, has everything to do with him running talent outta town, and refusing to hand over the keys.
We didn't get to the $48m contract in a vacuum. We got there after the guy took a solid on the franchise. Which really speaks way more about Jimmy than him, but still.
Lakers situation this year pretty much:
What I'm picking up from Kobe is the Lakers can afford to go over the
salary cap and he is right. They can pay him and still pick up other players.
Kobe is such a polarizing player now that no Star wants to play with that
ego so going over the cap to bring in a top star player is not going to happen.
Unless kobe ask for a trade he will finish it his career with lotto teams.
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No one will want him. That contract is a cancer
I don't believe the lakers can go over the cap with another star after signing the deal.
Someone verify?
The deal signed or not, no star wanted to play for the Lakers as long as Kobe was still playing there so it wasn't just the contract but the existence of Kobe himself that blocked Lakers access to a new star, which was the focal point of this article imho. I know it's a custom of Spurstalk that posters just open a thread and post even without reading the OP. They couldn't even re-sign their own players (DH and Pau) due to Kobe being on their squad, let alone luring stars there out of other teams tbh.
I don't necessarily agree with that.
The contract is a huge message to the rest of the league that the Lakers will be Kobe's team for at least two more years. It's a sign that the Lakers will stand behind Kobe no matter how ridiculous his demands are. The Lakers will let the best big in the league go, the Lakers will let go of the best coaches, the Lakers will do anything possible to keep Kobe happy, and none of the stars want to be on the other end of that deal.
Actually you agreed with me and the author of the article that it wasn't just a question of salary. The 48.5m extension surely didn't help, it stoked Kobe's ego, but it was only part of rather than the whole reason why other stars refused to play for the Lakers. Kobe run DH out of town but that happened before 48.5m was signed imho. The whole world have already known that the Lakers are Kobe's team since he run Shaq out of town in 04 tbh, and they know the Lakers will aways be his team as long as he plays no matter how much he gets paid.
if you'd say the opposite, he'd unfollow you.. you know, coz he doesn't care..
Jerry the Chemist was still running when they traded 4 picks and gave $27m to Nash.
How did Dwert fit in such a small car?Lakers situation this year pretty much:
I'm happy Nono hate more kobe than parker tbh...
I'm happy Nono hate more kobe than parker tbh...
Kobe simply made the bed, now just lies in it...
He picked the bed, picked the sheets and covers, picked the pillows, picked the matress....but is blaming the clerk that rang him up at the store for not sleeping comfortably.
Kobe simply made the bed, now just lies in it...
Kobe's going to keep rationalizing it, but his enormous salary is the biggest problem the Lakers have. Saying the markets are different in L.A. and San Antonio, he neglects to mention that that means he can also easily make more money outside of basketball than Duncan can. The average commercial endorsement is much more lucrative in L.A. than in S.A.... Any way he spins it, it's still a matter of him thinking of himself above the team and winning, and that's why he's going out a loser on a non-playoff team, breaking embarrassing records, and Timmy is going out challenging for championships. Add to that the difference in personalities-- Tim never had players the quality of Pau or Dwight leave him-- and Kobe is pretty much set to spend his final years with a more and more tarnished reputation while Duncan will be lauded forever for doing things the right way.
Add this to it: Kobe has more money than he'll ever need, and he decided that getting even more money was more important than winning. Plus, he doesn't have the grace to take a smaller role in order to win. David Robinson and Tim Duncan had no problem doing that. Kobe can't.
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