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trade Neal, Bonner, Blair for an allstar
I thought Baynes could grow to be a 10 and 10 guy at least, but he goes up so ing weak on almost every attempt. It's maddening.
trade Neal, Bonner, Blair for an allstar
Yes...and although the reasons are all tied together, I think the primary reason is Splitter's recovery. Sadly, back injuries seem to linger forever.
Should've signed Gustavo Ayon instead of this stiff.
Baynes wasn't the ish last night. Pop played the Bonner card for too long, which allowed the Kings to get back in the game.
Bonner should not be wearing a Spurs uniform.
Pop tried to put Ayers on DeMarcus, Pop pulled him right away after Pop saw Ayers braced himself for impact only to move back 5' guarding DeMarcus. DeMarcus is too big for Duncan, Ayers and Bonner. It was fun watching Baynes and Cousins battle inside the paint, the refs was just letting them play physical. DeMarcus just have a better footwork.
Baynes is and always has been a third string big man. I don't get why anyone would be surprised that he's just not that good. He wouldn't start on the Philadelphia 76ers.
Baynes play is where it should be...He is a starter where he should be a 4-6 minute per game sub.
His game is as good as it will be. He is doing what he does. Sure there could be that rare game
but he is where he is....
The only thing he needs to correct is finishing and stop getting his stuff blocked all the time. People thought Splitter was soft............
Yeah one single player was the sole reason Sacramento went on a 18-2 run.
Genius.
Baynes doesn't have either the size or the athleticism necessary to finish around the basket. I hope he's able to develop a jumpshot, because he's not going to be scoring many points otherwise.
at 6'10" at 260lbs.....I think he can make some space around the lane.
Baynes is what he is. Not sure why people try to make him out to be something special or act like he's underachieving or something. He's a decent 3rd-string big man.
exactly.
As I said when he came from Europe and most of the ST had high expectations about him: if he was any good,he was playing at a Spanish, greek or turkish team, not at some eastern-europe country which exports most of their talents.
I'm understand Baynes is a third big. I just wish he would gather and go up strong rather than going up like a princess around the rim.
I never understood the bizarre obsession with him on this board. As some have pointed out, he's not only not better than Ayres; he's probably worse.
The two things he's supposed to be able to do are rebound at a high rate and do a reasonable enough job on low post behemoths like Howard and Cousins that they can get by with him playing them straight up, yet he can't even do those two things. To top it off, he's a low IQ player.
I don't think most realize just how bad the fourth big situation is. Excluding the 76ers, who are not an NBA team, it's arguably the worst in the league.
The nig used to go up for dunks. I dunno if Pop took him to the Splitter School of Being a Around the Rim or what.
probably
Dudes should be falling like bowling pins down there with Baynes size.
Instead he's trying to be Gregory Hines.
This is his first truly bad game. He has had other shooting night go poorly but generally speaking he has been functional. Maybe Pop gives up on him but after standing by Ayers regular struggles through 4 months last seson before pulling the plug he shows more patience.
I thought the Kinds gameplanned him. Gay ws clearly baiting KW into swiping at the ball as if he had been gameplanning and sure enough people think he owned Leonard. Thing is he shot 7-20 or ~35% for 18 points. That is ty efficiency.
Parker was getting smoked on the same pnr Baynes was but nary a mention of that. It's like you guy's don't know what you are watching and stick with whatever emotional response you get during the game.
If a 4th big is as important as you portray it, then this team is in deep trouble. You expect a 4th big to rebound a high rate? Really?
And no, he's not worse than Ayres. Have you seen that er play? He literally messes up every opportunity and can't catch the damn ball. He's a net negative player and he shouldn't be in the NBA. Where as Baynes has had some memorable moments, against LA in '13, Portland last playoffs...
It's all relative. When Duncan was young and could credibly play both big positions on both ends and play virtually unlimited minutes all season, fourth big didn't matter much. In the absence of that, it matters, especially when one of the top three isn't durable and lacks stamina.
I didn't say I expect a fourth big to rebound at a high rate, I said I expect this particular one to, since that was supposed to be his biggest strength and considering it generally translates well from level to level and league to league.
That's debatable; what's not is that he's no better. There's nothing statistically to suggest anything to the contrary and he's not a Bowen type, where it's difficult to accurately quantify his value through stats. Ayres was at least respectable two seasons ago, something Baynes has never been.
Baynes is good value for what he makes. 6'10"--260lbs would be considered a big. I watched all the games and when he is a step or so from the basket he go in strong and not like a princess. He doesn't always make the shot but it's not for trying. if he is off the basket and the lane is blocked he will shoot a jumper and once in a while a Boris type tear drop. As for guarding the rim he won't back down even if it means the guy is trying to make a poster out of him. I rather see
Baynes in there instead of Ayres. Baynes always plays 100% when he is in. He sets picks and he pushes players around under the basket. Does anyone wonder how he got the nickname "the banger"...we are more than getting our money's worth for what we pay him. Don't try to make him into something he is not.
Last edited by Biernutz; 11-17-2014 at 12:43 PM.
Splitter does get blocked quite a bit (243 times in 318 career games) but has always been a very good finisher. When he came off the bench in the 11-12 season he finished 76% from 0-3 feet. When became a full time starter it dropped down the the mid 60's and his shot began getting blocked roughly 1 per game. Thats makes sense because starting big men tend to be bigger/taller and more athletic defenders.
There is some defensive issue there with Baynes,as well, but his finishing at the rim isn't new. He shot 56% from 0-3 feet last year. Thats laughably bad. Ricky Rubio shot 40% from the same range last season (obviously different players and positions but still..) He is at 46% this year from the same range. He also seldom get to the line, a Splitter specialty.
Last edited by cd021; 11-17-2014 at 04:57 AM.
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