Lakers: Is Kobe this dumb, or is he purposely doing this to send a message to the FO?

[RsxPiimp]

I've already lost some of my respect for Kobe with the way he handled the Dwight situation, and I'm ready to admit I lost whatever is left with the way he's playing this year.



Is Kobe really trying to win the scoring le regardless of percentage? I mean, the past 8 games has been very hard for me as a Laker fan. It's not even fun anymore. I don't mind losing at this point, but the way we're losing is just painful to watch. Kobe is totally embarrassing the Laker nation. I never wish for any injury on any player but somehow I wish Kobe's career ends now. It was a great 17 years, but it's to move on Bean.



So, is this guy really this dumb (which I doubt) or is he purposely shooting this much to send a message that this roster ain't cutting it? Or maybe he's just delusional?


Don't explain to me how the Lakers are not going to win anyway, strapped financially etc... I'm aware of that. I just want to hear your opinion about why Kobe is treating the entire team like crap, totally ignoring anyone from the Coach to the players on the floor.

[benefactor]

They only reason Kobe has left to play basketball is to chase Jordan.

[Thread]

They only reason Kobe has left to play basketball is to chase Jordan.

Then, barring a black list he's gonna light out after the other two like the last two pork chops on the plate.

[ElNono]

I've already lost some of my respect for Kobe with the way he handled the Dwight situation, and I'm ready to admit I lost whatever is left with the way he's playing this year.



Is Kobe really trying to win the scoring le regardless of percentage? I mean, the past 8 games has been very hard for me as a Laker fan. It's not even fun anymore. I don't mind losing at this point, but the way we're losing is just painful to watch. Kobe is totally embarrassing the Laker nation. I never wish for any injury on any player but somehow I wish Kobe's career ends now. It was a great 17 years, but it's to move on Bean.



So, is this guy really this dumb (which I doubt) or is he purposely shooting this much to send a message that this roster ain't cutting it? Or maybe he's just delusional?


Don't explain to me how the Lakers are not going to win anyway, strapped financially etc... I'm aware of that. I just want to hear your opinion about why Kobe is treating the entire team like crap, totally ignoring anyone from the Coach to the players on the floor.

He sent a message when he hustled Jimbo out of the $48.5m... that move symbolized more than just money. I don't get Lakerfan that are "surprised" now that the product is this bad, tbh...

[StrengthAndHonor]

Some of you guys are really overreacting at this point. He's coming back from a career ending injury at the tender age of 36 in his 19th season. Could he shoot better? I don't think so. He's missing even easy ones. This is not all on him. Their front office has been tremendously incompetent building the team. Giving away draft picks, not relying on analytics for their personnel moves and mismanaging the ever important cap space are the worst offenders and is why the Lakers are in this position.


Byron Scott shouldn't be a coach in this day and age. What did they do? They hired him since he has a strong Laker connection. Dumb. Jordan Hill for $9 million, Nick Young for the MLE, Kobe for $48.5... I can go on, but the proof is hard to refute.

[Buddy Mignon]

As long as he catches Jeffrey I'm good.

[DPG21920]

I've already lost some of my respect for Kobe with the way he handled the Dwight situation, and I'm ready to admit I lost whatever is left with the way he's playing this year.



Is Kobe really trying to win the scoring le regardless of percentage? I mean, the past 8 games has been very hard for me as a Laker fan. It's not even fun anymore. I don't mind losing at this point, but the way we're losing is just painful to watch. Kobe is totally embarrassing the Laker nation. I never wish for any injury on any player but somehow I wish Kobe's career ends now. It was a great 17 years, but it's to move on Bean.



So, is this guy really this dumb (which I doubt) or is he purposely shooting this much to send a message that this roster ain't cutting it? Or maybe he's just delusional?


Don't explain to me how the Lakers are not going to win anyway, strapped financially etc... I'm aware of that. I just want to hear your opinion about why Kobe is treating the entire team like crap, totally ignoring anyone from the Coach to the players on the floor.

Roster not going to cut it? He knows the reason the roster won't cut it and it's because he's a greedy chucker. He didn't want to go through the rigors of winning and all that preperation. He wanted to get paid as much as he can, get the scoring le on the Lakers dime and chase selfish pursuits.

The roster won't cut it because he wouldn't accept the reality of the situation and because he'd rather stat pad than win at this point of his career. Pretty simple.

[DPG21920]

Some of you guys are really overreacting at this point. He's coming back from a career ending injury at the tender age of 36 in his 19th season. Could he shoot better? I don't think so. He's missing even easy ones. This is not all on him. Their front office has been tremendously incompetent building the team. Giving away draft picks, not relying on analytics for their personnel moves and mismanaging the ever important cap space are the worst offenders and is why the Lakers are in this position.


Byron Scott shouldn't be a coach in this day and age. What did they do? They hired him since he has a strong Laker connection. Dumb. Jordan Hill for $9 million, Nick Young for the MLE, Kobe for $48.5... I can go on, but the proof is hard to refute.

Blaming the front office more than Kobe Lakers were worse last year talent wise and still won more games.

[spurraider21]

Then, barring a black list he's gonna light out after the other two like the last two pork chops on the plate.

Only 2 things matter, and that ain't one of em

[Donkeybong]

I'm a Kobe apologist and honestly I can't stand how Kobe is playing this year. It's the most selfish basketball I've ever seen. I don't see how anyone can defend the way he's playing now. I agree with OP, it's not even fun to watch. I know a lot of hardcore Laker fans, including myself, aren't even interested in watching the games anymore.

The only explanation I have for such ty play is that Kobe wants to guarantee a top 3 pick for next year so Phoenix doesn't sniff that pick and give the team a more legitimate shot of making some noise next year.

[DPG21920]

^ at thinking Kobe cares about LA's future at all. That's not even an Inception-style planted thought in Kobe's decision making.

[Donkeybong]

^ at thinking Kobe cares about LA's future at all. That's not even an Inception-style planted thought in Kobe's decision making.

It was the only rationalization with a positive spin I could think of. Likelihood of being true: 0.2%

[Sportstudi]

I've already lost some of my respect for Kobe with the way he handled the Dwight situation, and I'm ready to admit I lost whatever is left with the way he's playing this year.



Is Kobe really trying to win the scoring le regardless of percentage? I mean, the past 8 games has been very hard for me as a Laker fan. It's not even fun anymore. I don't mind losing at this point, but the way we're losing is just painful to watch. Kobe is totally embarrassing the Laker nation. I never wish for any injury on any player but somehow I wish Kobe's career ends now. It was a great 17 years, but it's to move on Bean.



So, is this guy really this dumb (which I doubt) or is he purposely shooting this much to send a message that this roster ain't cutting it? Or maybe he's just delusional?


Don't explain to me how the Lakers are not going to win anyway, strapped financially etc... I'm aware of that. I just want to hear your opinion about why Kobe is treating the entire team like crap, totally ignoring anyone from the Coach to the players on the floor.

He's completely obsessed with passing Jordan this season and maybe Malone and Kareem in the next years. That's all what he cares about. No matter how, even by shooting 35% for the rest of his career and being on a lottery team during that time.

[spurraider21]

can anybody on this board imagine Duncan doing anything like this?

[StrengthAndHonor]

In 5-10 years, nobody will remember this season even mattered in Kobe's career.

[Killakobe81]

Some of you guys are really overreacting at this point. He's coming back from a career ending injury at the tender age of 36 in his 19th season. Could he shoot better? I don't think so. He's missing even easy ones. This is not all on him. Their front office has been tremendously incompetent building the team. Giving away draft picks, not relying on analytics for their personnel moves and mismanaging the ever important cap space are the worst offenders and is why the Lakers are in this position.


Byron Scott shouldn't be a coach in this day and age. What did they do? They hired him since he has a strong Laker connection. Dumb. Jordan Hill for $9 million, Nick Young for the MLE, Kobe for $48.5... I can go on, but the proof is hard to refute.

Valid points. I get the Nash and Howard moves even if both failed they went all in while Jerry was expiring ...but this year's team is a tank of epic proportions.

i also am not enjoying Kobe's chucking at least in previous seasons you could argue that he felt it was the best way to win. Now it comes off as wellif I cant win I might as well chase the scoring le. By % this is the least amount of Laker games I have watched. I havent watched a full 48 yet and have only watched half of the games or even 3 querters when even last year I watched 75% ...

TWC/Kobe etc will probably push for a panic deal to salvage some respect out of a ty season I prefer we tank and come back with some moves next year. Season is done. A Josh smith, Greg Monroe, Rondo type trade wont save it ...

[Malik Hairston]

Kobe's playing horrific basketball, but I applaud it, tbh..

- One of the worst rosters in NBA history, they never had a chance to even sniff the playoffs in the West

- Lakers signed Kobe to a massive contract as a win-win for both parties..Lakers' end the relationship with one of the 3 greatest Lakers of all-time on a good note, while Kobe gets to chase Jordan's points mark

- Lakers tank and keep their pick, while Kobe still draws fans and sells tickets

What's the point of playing team-oriented basketball, at this point?..they aren't going to win games, regardless, that roster is embarrassing, and the coach belongs in the 90s..who wants to watch a Lakers team going for the 10th or 11th seed with Jeremy Lin running pick&rolls with Carlos Boozer?..

Whether you're a Kobe fan, or whether you enjoy watching him fail, his presence is drawing interest from fans and media everywhere, tbh..all of us are tuning in to watch Kobe play basketball..

If Kobe wasn't playing like he is now, the Lakers would be one of the 3 least interesting teams in the NBA IMO..do any of you actually think the Lakers' organization would be content with being a completely uninteresting team?..

[Raven]

In 5-10 years, nobody will remember this season even mattered in Kobe's career.

he's consistently playing his way out of the top 20 all time though.. if it lasts a few more season it will be though to even call him a top 30

[Malik Hairston]

^^ no, tbh..

Kobe is a top 10 all-time player, he's cemented IMO..top 12-13, at worst..

[Koolaid_Man]

I've already lost some of my respect for Kobe with the way he handled the Dwight situation, and I'm ready to admit I lost whatever is left with the way he's playing this year.



Is Kobe really trying to win the scoring le regardless of percentage? I mean, the past 8 games has been very hard for me as a Laker fan. It's not even fun anymore. I don't mind losing at this point, but the way we're losing is just painful to watch. Kobe is totally embarrassing the Laker nation. I never wish for any injury on any player but somehow I wish Kobe's career ends now. It was a great 17 years, but it's to move on Bean.



So, is this guy really this dumb (which I doubt) or is he purposely shooting this much to send a message that this roster ain't cutting it? Or maybe he's just delusional?


Don't explain to me how the Lakers are not going to win anyway, strapped financially etc... I'm aware of that. I just want to hear your opinion about why Kobe is treating the entire team like crap, totally ignoring anyone from the Coach to the players on the floor.

You Cheer for a GOT..So SHUT THA UP!!!! None of that you posted makes any sense at all...especially from a basketball perspective...it all lacks perspective...

[Killakobe81]

Kobe's playing horrific basketball, but I applaud it, tbh..

- One of the worst rosters in NBA history, they never had a chance to even sniff the playoffs in the West

- Lakers signed Kobe to a massive contract as a win-win for both parties..Lakers' end the relationship with one of the 3 greatest Lakers of all-time on a good note, while Kobe gets to chase Jordan's points mark

- Lakers tank and keep their pick, while Kobe still draws fans and sells tickets

What's the point of playing team-oriented basketball, at this point?..they aren't going to win games, regardless, that roster is embarrassing, and the coach belongs in the 90s..who wants to watch a Lakers team going for the 10th or 11th seed with Jeremy Lin running pick&rolls with Carlos Boozer?..

Whether you're a Kobe fan, or whether you enjoy watching him fail, his presence is drawing interest from fans and media everywhere, tbh..all of us are tuning in to watch Kobe play basketball..

If Kobe wasn't playing like he is now, the Lakers would be one of the 3 least interesting teams in the NBA IMO..do any of you actually think the Lakers' organization would be content with being a completely uninteresting team?..

EXACTLY agree. Amb and others are trying to act like Byron ins uting a pass 4 times before you shoot HS type rule will make this team play any better. The roster is Kobe is past his prime ...I cant believe people are blaming Byron. Riles couldnt win with this roster either ...

[AlexJones]

^^ no, tbh..

Kobe is a top 10 all-time player, he's cemented IMO..top 12-13, at worst..

Well he's good enough to be top 5. I'm not sure how anyone can take any of those Bill Russells, O-Robs, Hakeems, Aids and Kareems seriously.

[Killakobe81]

he's consistently playing his way out of the top 20 all time though.. if it lasts a few more season it will be though to even call him a top 30

That is pretty dumb. Harlem has shat on Kobe plenty and even he doesnt buy that. Great players are rarely judged by the end ... you think Jeter will be remembered for last year or the injury plagued one before?

[Raven]

That is pretty dumb. Harlem has shat on Kobe plenty and even he doesnt buy that. Great players are rarely judged by the end ... you think Jeter will be remembered for last year or the injury plagued one before?

i don't care what harlem says tbh, kobe is not a top 10 player and it's not even close, considering how much he is being exposed the last few years, his whole career achievements have to be revised. Players like Parker and Manu could have the last laugh tbh

[Cry Havoc]

That is pretty dumb. Harlem has shat on Kobe plenty and even he doesnt buy that. Great players are rarely judged by the end ... you think Jeter will be remembered for last year or the injury plagued one before?

Jeter didn't single-handedly torpedo the Yankees, but I agree, Kobe's legacy is pretty much set. He certainly could be imposing his own glass ceiling right now, though. It may not sink his career but it will definitely will buff the rosy tint right off it when it's looked back on decades later.