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He's not dumb he's just sociopathic
Of course it does not help ...
I wont bother responding to Raven but fact of the matter is there are 3 players Duncan, Kobe and Lebron who will definitely be in the top 10 ...
And Dirk and KG who are arguably in the next 10.
KG looking done or Kobe launching bricks wont change that ...
Lebron and Duncan are arguably top 5
Kobe next 5
Dirk the 5 after that ...
and KG the 5 after Dirk
He's not dumb he's just sociopathic
Fans are finicky in general and the "What have you done lately?" at ude has been embedded among sports fans for decades so it's not a surprise.
I agree with Malik, Kobe's position has been cemented in the Top 10 range. I thought by 2010, it was pretty much a consensus actually. What he's about to do in 2014-15 will hardly affect his position. Advance metrics will play a larger role sooner or later though and this will pull Kobe's ranking a bit lower (putting him in the 12-14 range) but the narrative for Kobe's legacy has been written years ago and he will be celebrated, like it or not by pundits when he hangs them up.
It will make the lakers better. They still won't make the playoffs, but they will develop the younger talent, create a compe ive culture, and can possibly attract some big name FA once Kobe is gone. M
What the lakers are doing now is an assault to professional basketball.
Question: How can you maintain your status as one of the most talked about franchises that is followed and quoted constantly in the media, while tanking and still sucking bad enough to get two top 5 picks in a row?
Answer: The Lakers 2014 offseason
The 2016-2017 Lakers will have three top ten picks (probably two top 5) and two max players. Kobe is just a fall guy, and he fits the role perfectly.
I can't see putting Duncan any lower than 5th. le contender every year for 16 years, 5 rings, and always around 18-11 production numbers is just absurd.
LeBron could surpass him and go as high as he wants but he's got a longer road right now than I expected. I'd put him about 7th-8th on that list, but he's moving up.
Kobe I have no higher than 9th and you could make an argument for as low as 13th, mostly due to his questionable leadership qualities.
Dirk and KG are interesting. Part of me wants to put KG higher even though I hate the dude, just because he was a two way monster in nearly the same vein as Duncan. Dirk is among the greatest offensive players ever but did have defensive struggles.
well if he keeps shooting 30/game with .35% or so, i doubt anyone will seriously consider his points total as anything worthy of respect and all of his les will have a star on them.. I mean if you consider him just a player that was carried to les (which is what he is) then the amount of players that gave much more to the game really multiplies.
This is the one instance where Kirbs didn't follow DK footsteps, and it could be costly, tbh...
When DK was done, he went to a low-life franchise in the Wiz to chuck up and basically play rec-league basketball... low exposure, he kept his loyal Bullsfan swearing by him, minimal to no damage to the Bulls, and the Wizards were already ... that's why most people don't hold DK's Wiz years against him.
But this guy has single-handedly been dragging down the franchise for at least the last couple of years, a franchise with perhaps the highest exposure in the league, running top talent off the ballclub telling them he'll teach them how to win (the irony here is inescapable) and forcing the franchise into a rebuild he wants no part of, calling his own fans stupid right in their faces, while taking a solid on Dr Buss' legacy (one of the guys that made him).
I don't even buy the money copout. Sure, he made out like a bandit with that contract, but this is a guy that's already set for life, has a great money manager in his wife, and always had great sponsors... IMO, he just made a terrible decision, legacy-wise...
I don't disagree with this. 35% and a projected a career worst 48% TS would have to be accounted for but not enough to merit a huge drop in ranking. It's one season afterall. You can't justify the carrying the le narrative. He did win 2 Final MVP's. I mean for fans like you and me, it's debatable but no one will dare bring this in the media which has a far more greater impact in the grand scheme of things.
There's a reason why most of us don't view great players under a different light despite of absolute lows and struggles at the tail end part of their careers ( Olajuwon, Barkley, Malone, Bird etc) and it's because the best years of their respective careers are often the reflection of their legacies.
i was speaking on the premise that it would last for more than just this season.. i mean right now kobe is a player that has 0 playoff appereances without a top 2 big.. that's gotta count for something tbh..
Agreed. DK at least had great advanced metrics to support him too. Kobe's metrics are fine, but not as good as the eyeball test would have you believe. With the advancement of stats plus the fact Kobe has been dragging down LA for years this does not bode well for him outside of China.
If the Lakers are gonna suck and Kobe is gonna keep shooting, then why do the other players have pass him the ball? Gotta have 5 on the floor at all times. Just take it one on one yourself, Kobe.
Kobe scores 40 Lakers lose.
Kobe scores 5 Lakers lose.
They others guys should just Chuck every time too. The end result is the same.
As long as Kirby doesn't ring and is stuck at Jordan 6 > Kirby 5
To the honest Laker fans in this thread, srs question: whats the max tolerable number of years until making the playoffs? I ask because the org has nothing. They've got Randle, a top 5 pick, and two of three first rounders owed to others in the following years. Zero semi-developed players and the same cap space as everyone else in a stacked West.
IMo youre looking at a 5-7 year rebuild, and that's being optimistic. Can LALA land remain a Laker town if the Clips are constantly in the POs while the Lakers are constantly positioning themselves for the lottery? Future is bleak.
I dont think kobe will be able to handle the entire season losing and getting asked every night about his shot attempts. He's too psycho to let his winner iden y go, it wont be pretty. the lakers are more reality gossip show than nba team.
it will be painfully slow, but it also depends if they can lure a FA like Chimp
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whatever are ur criticisms of this cripple got, he just walk it off, like he did when he walked it off in the bathroom
I got 16 and a heart full of memories that will see me to the grave.
I'm a trend setter.
I set trends.
Bend over, I 'll show you a trend setter.
But as long as Kirby doesn't ring, you can set all the trends you want.
You can't be serious.
Can't tell. 3 years? Jimbo guaranteed the Lakers will be a contender or he'll step down. So I'm assuming the Lakers goes all out ala 2012 once Kobe's contract is done.
His brain cells are dead from ingesting AIDS-sperm from got Magic.
The issue about this season (and to an extent the last few seasons) isn't that Kobe sucks because he's finished like bullets Jordan raptors Olajuwon or Seattle Ewing, it's that he's still putting up huge scoring numbers while his team sucks, and his behavior validates a lot of the flaws and criticism over the years, even during his prime.
Him being inefficient and a cancer of a teammate isn't something new, it's just that people lived with it because the team was winning. The team is no longer winning and Kobe is one of the main reasons for it.
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