Lakers: Lol at Lakersground, "Still complaining about Stern Veto" edition.

[midnightpulp]

They're still not over it:

I am still fuming about it. What makes it unbearable is David Stern then turning around and gift wrapping Chris Paul to the (bleep) Clippers

http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=170978

[Thebesteva]

They're still not over it:



http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=170978

I can see being upset over this if Jim Buss wasnt a complete ing moron. Even if we got CP3+Kobe+Howard, we needed Phil Jackson or a great coach to make it work. Jim Buss would never bring in Phil and we'd be in the same damn boat + CP3. CP3+Kobe in this roster is basically a 30 win team.

Kobe has been a tall Allen Iverson since 2010. He used the 2 rings as permission to just keep chucking shots instead of doing what he once did. I also blame injuries and old age

[100%duncan]

I can see being upset over this if Jim Buss wasnt a complete ing moron. Even if we got CP3+Kobe+Howard, we needed Phil Jackson or a great coach to make it work. Jim Buss would never bring in Phil and we'd be in the same damn boat + CP3. CP3+Kobe in this roster is basically a 30 win team.

Kobe has been a tall Allen Iverson since 2010. He used the 2 rings as permission to just keep chucking shots instead of doing what he once did. I also blame injuries and old age

Chucking up less shots?

[midnightpulp]

I can see being upset over this if Jim Buss wasnt a complete ing moron. Even if we got CP3+Kobe+Howard, we needed Phil Jackson or a great coach to make it work. Jim Buss would never bring in Phil and we'd be in the same damn boat + CP3. CP3+Kobe in this roster is basically a 30 win team.

Kobe has been a tall Allen Iverson since 2010. He used the 2 rings as permission to just keep chucking shots instead of doing what he once did. I also blame injuries and old age

It was a terrible trade anyhow.

The Lakers were giving up both Gasol and Odom. At the time, Chris Paul wasn't worth those two players. And yeah, I know the plan was to pair him with Dwight, but Dwight wasn't a given, either. I even joked on here that Stern saved the Lakers from making a big mistake there. You don't break up a championship core for Chris Paul.

[Thebesteva]

It was a terrible trade anyhow.

The Lakers were giving up both Gasol and Odom. At the time, Chris Paul wasn't worth those two players. And yeah, I know the plan was to pair him with Dwight, but Dwight wasn't a given, either. I even joked on here that Stern saved the Lakers from making a big mistake there. You don't break up a championship core for Chris Paul.

The Spiraling all stems from that day, I can understand Laker fans accusing Stern of the downfall. For all the help he did with one hand, he hurt the Lakers with the other to appease to the owners. Only a Laker fan can know this because haters logic is but but Kings game 6. Stern ed the Lakers over, but not because of the Paul trade.

[spurraider21]

what sucks about that trade is that Odom became a little as a result of it... and that was when they really spiraled

Lamar for them was like Diaw for us, but a better rebounder and transition player

[scanry]

The Lakers are better off without Choke Paul tbh. Stern vetoing that trade was a blessing in disguise.

[scanry]

what sucks about that trade is that Odom became a little as a result of it... and that was when they really spiraled

Lamar for them was like Diaw for us, but a better rebounder and transition player

I think the league figured them out tbh. Rick Carlisle had the blue print to beat the Lakers that season. Dallas had incredible success with zone defense in that le run.

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I think the league figured them out tbh. Rick Carlisle had the blue print to beat the Lakers that season. Dallas had incredible success with zone defense in that le run.

All Carlisle did was copy the Celtic blue print from '08 (cut Pau out). The Celtics employed that same blue print in '10 till Perkins collapsed. One would believe that a mind as accomplished as Jackson's would take heed. No. He kept whistling past the graveyard till Carlisle. Such a surprise! Can ya imagine it? We'd been warned, not once, but, twice and still suffered.

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The Lakers are better off without Choke Paul tbh. Stern vetoing that trade was a blessing in disguise.

And I was first to call it. Me.

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what sucks about that trade is that Odom became a little as a result of it... and that was when they really spiraled

And I was first to call it. Me.

[midnightpulp]

I believe Odom was also headed to the Hornets as well. I'll have to look that up.

Edit: Looked it up and it was Dragic, Odom, Scola, Martin and the Knicks 2012 pick (#10). Odom probably would hace been immediately flipped for another pick.

That deal probably messed the Lakers up for a decade. It's the one singular reason we're in the situation we are in now. No one in the league wanted to make an even deal with the Lakers after Stern's veto either.

Stern's decision was corrupt from the beginning.

The NBA Front Office and every NBA owner didn't have a problem with letting general manager Dell Demps make the player-personnel decisions for the Hornets. Dan Gilbert and Mark Cuban didn't say a word. So, any and every team that made offers to Dell Demps, did so in good faith believing that Dell was the person to deal with.

The fact that Stern pulled the rug out from under the "agreed upon process" just because Gilbert and Cuban didn't like the deal... wreaks of favoritism, bias, and unprofessional conduct.

This act by Stern altered the history of two franchises and one of the great franchises that helped bring the league to the heights of popularity.

[pgardn]

And I was first to call it. Me.

So now you see why these guys love kirbchucker.
ME.

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So now you see why these guys love kirbchucker.
ME.

25-5-5.

[midnightpulp]

25-5-5.

On 37% shooting.

[baseline bum]

what sucks about that trade is that Odom became a little as a result of it... and that was when they really spiraled

Lamar for them was like Diaw for us, but a better rebounder and transition player

Are we sure Odom hadn't already spiraled out of control? Have to imagine that's the case and the Lakers knew it, as otherwise why would they have dumped him to Dallas for nothing?

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On 37% shooting.

That's okay, Kobe has plenty of august company at that %.

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Pelicans would have never tanked enough to get the #1 pick that year if they got all those decent players they wanted. Trading Chris Paul for Anthony Davis sounds like a pretty ing good deal to me.

And like Kobe would have relinquished control of the ball to Chris Paul anyways. Paul would have been nothing but a glorified corner 3 point shooter. And IF the Howard trade still happened, Paul and Howard would have both gotten pissed at Kobe and left anyways.