Spurs @ Cavs discussion thread

[Robz4000]

At first I thought about that. However, it looks like Cleveland really needs a point guard beside LeBron. He can't do everything. Dragic can play point guard, he can score and slash, and he doesn't shoot (nor does not have the penchant to chuck) as much as Kyrie does.

True, but if they trade Kyrie they'll be trading for a PG in the mold of Beverly who can play without the ball and give them some D on the perimeter. Besides, if Irving goes they can keep Waiters who can handle the ball a bit; they'll also have Delladova to cover some minutes.

[100%duncan]

That's why I also said that a PHX-CLE is out of the question. Forgot to mention that, my bad. Bledsoe and Kyrie alone would be hard-pressed to work because both need the ball to be effective. If anything, Phoenix is probably looking to trade for a shooting guard or center.

Yep. They got 3 already decent to great pg's and trading Dragic for Kyrie might be even worse than a lateral move. Although for Cleveland, I think it would be an upgrade obviously. One can say that Dragic wants to facilitate well he can in Cleveland. Lebron running point-forward at this point of his career is not so efficient anymore, having a pg like will not only improve the team but help Lebron ease out a bit.

[Silver&Black]

I tried the ESPN trade machine and every trade that worked is massively in favor of Phoenix. Basically it's Kyrie and Amundson for Goran and a bunch of scrubs whose names I didn't even take note of. There's another viable proposal out there somewhere, but Phoenix for me is out of the equation.

It's going to be an Eastern conference team.....if anything.

Too many quality PGs in the west tbh. No Western Conference team would make that deal. It's not because Kyrie sucks (I'm not saying that at all)...it's because the salaries don't add up. You would have to give up a King's ransom to get Kyrie......

[Venti Quattro]

Besides, if Irving goes they can keep Waiters who can handle the ball a bit; they'll also have Delladova to cover some minutes.

Let's be honest here homie.

If you're a championship-contending team, or you say you want a championship NOW...

And you trust your ball-handling and other point guard chores to Dion Waiters and Matthew Dellevadova....



I wouldn't.

[Robz4000]

Let's be honest here homie.

If you're a championship-contending team, or you say you want a championship NOW...

And you trust your ball-handling to Dion Waiters and Matthew Dellevadova....

They'd be third/fourth options obviously. The PG they trade for would handle ball handling duties when Lebron isn't.

[Venti Quattro]

They'd be third/fourth options obviously. The PG they trade for would handle ball handling duties when Lebron isn't.

That's why I think Goran Dragic fits well. Too bad both teams won't find an amicable trade unless they try to hose each other. Although I agree with you, Pat bev would be a very great point guard for LeBron. Would Houston let him go? Probably not. He's the only thing keeping opposing backcourts from dropping 30 on the Rockets backcourt every game.

[Robz4000]

That's why I think Goran Dragic fits well. Too bad both teams won't find an amicable trade unless they try to hose each other. Although I agree with you, Pat bev would be a very great point guard for LeBron. Would Houston let him go? Probably not. He's the only thing keeping opposing backcourts from dropping 30 on the Rockets backcourt every game.

Morey might just be dumb enough to. Lets not forget he gave Jeremy Rin a $30 mil contract...

[scanry]

That's why I think Goran Dragic fits well. Too bad both teams won't find an amicable trade unless they try to hose each other. Although I agree with you, Pat bev would be a very great point guard for LeBron. Would Houston let him go? Probably not. He's the only thing keeping opposing backcourts from dropping 30 on the Rockets backcourt every game.

Nah dude. Ball dominant players like Lebron, MJ & Kobe never won sh!t with ball dominant PGs. They need a Johnny Pax or a Derek Fish type of pg to thrive. What the Cavs need right now is a Roy Hibbert who can protect the paint and settle their offense when Kyrie, Lebron & Waiters start to iso teams to death.

Iso ball never won championships not counting DK's Bulls tbh.

[100%duncan]

Nah dude. Ball dominant players like Lebron, MJ & Kobe never won sh!t with ball dominant PGs. They need a Johnny Pax or a Derek Fish type of pg to thrive. What the Cavs need right now is a Roy Hibbert who can protect the paint and settle their offense when Kyrie, Lebron & Waiters start to iso teams to death.

Iso ball never won championships not counting DK's Bulls tbh.

Roy Hibbert would be a terrible fit... Imagine the vacation the bigs on the other team are going to take when two of your bigs can't shoot for crap. (Varejao and Hibbert) And I think Lebron and hibbert hate each other