Currently, is there a better perimeter defender than kawhi leonard?

[apalisoc_9]

Tony Allen is a good defender cause he gets away with a lot of . When thinking of Tony Allen though I always think about how Tony absolutely destroyed him in the 13 WCF.

We will never see that Parker again...

[testies]

Am I crazy to think Danny Green is better? Kawhi gets more flashy stuff like a big steal, but Green is more technically sound and I'd think he holds his opponents to lower FG%.

As much as people like to say Kawhi is a Lebron stopper, James still was shooting above 50% and basically carrying the Heat team by himself on that series, making 3s, doing everything. I think Spurs stopped Heat, not Kawhi stopped LeBron.

And btw, in the league there are plenty of better defenders than both DG and Kawhi on an individual level. Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler etc

[100%duncan]

Am I crazy to think Danny Green is better? Kawhi gets more flashy stuff like a big steal, but Green is more technically sound and I'd think he holds his opponents to lower FG%.

As much as people like to say Kawhi is a Lebron stopper, James still was shooting above 50% and basically carrying the Heat team by himself on that series, making 3s, doing everything. I think Spurs stopped Heat, not Kawhi stopped LeBron.

And btw, in the league there are plenty of better defenders than both DG and Kawhi on an individual level. Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler etc

Both no's. Lebron's ppg is bloated due to the fact that he was scoring while we were already up by double digits with Kawhi on the bench.

And Tony Allen is way past his prime, Jimmy Butler is good but not on DG or Kawhi's level.

One could argue that DG is better than Kawhi but I take the latter.

[marinoman]

off the top of my head I have
lebron when locked in
kawhi
tony allen

honarable mention
paul george
nic batum

[Splits]

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Danny Green is better in that he can guard a wider variety of players than Leonard. Haven't watched enough of Allen and Butler lately to compare, though.

[100%duncan]

Danny Green is better in that he can guard a wider variety of players than Leonard. Haven't watched enough of Allen and Butler lately to compare, though.

How can you say that? Kawhi can guard from 1-4. Danny, imho, only from 1-3.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

How can you say that? Kawhi can guard from 1-4. Danny, imho, only from 1-3.

Meh, Kawhi can't consistently guard 1s and 4s. Danny Green is better on 1s and on quick wings. Kawhi is better on the bulkier types. Great to have them both.

[anakha]

Who did a better job defending Westbrook in the 2014 WCF, Leonard or Green?

[100%duncan]

Who did a better job defending Westbrook in the 2014 WCF, Leonard or Green?

IIRC, DG was put on Durant.

pussy didn't even warrant Kawhi in Pop's mind

[dabom]

Trying hard much?

[SnakeBoy]

Am I crazy to think Danny Green is better? Kawhi gets more flashy stuff like a big steal, but Green is more technically sound and I'd think he holds his opponents to lower FG%.

Green is impressive when he's impressive. The rest of the time he's getting yelled at as Pop sends him to the bench.

[Arcadian]

I don't think so. He has literally the biggest hands and longest arms of any perimeter player in the league. That alone makes him the most disruptive. Add to that his solid fundamentals, quickness and strength, and he's the best.

, his signature move is the strip and steal leading to a dunk. Enough said.

[wildchild]

Who did a better job defending Westbrook in the 2014 WCF, Leonard or Green?

Leonard was on Westbrook Game 5, 6, the difference between their defensive performances become evident from the results, Kawhi's defense in game 5 was amazing.

They're -without doubt- the best perimeter defensive duo in the league. They complement each other, exercising their strengths and mitigating their weaknesses.

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

Who did a better job defending Westbrook in the 2014 WCF, Leonard or Green?

Green did. Throughout the series he was the best defender on the Spurs.

[wildchild]

As much as people like to say Kawhi is a Lebron stopper, James still was shooting above 50%...

Last game 3-11 27.2%

And btw, in the league there are plenty of better defenders than both DG and Kawhi on an individual level. Tony Allen, Jimmy Butler etc

Sure..."plenty of better defenders" but mention only two guys who, by the way, aren't better?

[wildchild]

Saw players shoot 8% worse than they normally do when guarded by Tony Allen

I read the same but Kawhi has better numbers.

Lebron
Season: 47%
vs Kawhi: 27%

Kobe
Season:38.6%
vs Kawhi: 0.7%

Rudy Gay
Season: 44%
vs Kawhi: 35%

Trevor Ariza
Season: 41.9%
vs Kawhi: 20.6%

Jamal Crawford
Season: 44.7%
vs Kawhi: 23.6%

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

I read the same but Kawhi has better numbers.

Lebron
Season: 47%
vs Kawhi: 27%

Kobe
Season:38.6%
vs Kawhi: 0.7%

Rudy Gay
Season: 44%
vs Kawhi: 35%

Trevor Ariza
Season: 41.9%
vs Kawhi: 20.6%

Jamal Crawford
Season: 44.7%
vs Kawhi: 23.6%

1. Sample size is
2. These are not the percentages of the possessions when guarded by Kawhi
3. Why only 5 players? Did he play 5 games? Where are Demarre Carroll, Tyreke Evans, Harrison Barnes ?

[wildchild]

1. Sample size is
2. These are not the percentages of the possessions when guarded by Kawhi
3. Why only 5 players? Did he play 5 games? Where are Demarre Carroll, Tyreke Evans, Harrison Barnes ?

It can be sample size but Allen numbers aren't his all seasons.

About the other three players, I rewatched possessions of Cavs, Lakers, Kings, Rockets and Clippers games. (IIRC, Barnes was shooting great but I didn't re-watch that game).

Edit: But maybe you're right about point 2, Kobe was guarding by Green, Leonard and Joseph but didn't score over Leonard and it should be 0% instead of 0.7%.
Green defended Gay but only two possessions and that didn't change the percentage, Lebron was 3-11 over Leonard and 3-6 over the other guys, so 27% against Kawhi, etc.

[ElNono]

Tony Allen... Ariza has been doing a good job too...

[SupremeGuy]

I read the same but Kawhi has better numbers.

Lebron
Season: 47%
vs Kawhi: 27%

Kobe
Season:38.6%
vs Kawhi: 0.7%

Rudy Gay
Season: 44%
vs Kawhi: 35%

Trevor Ariza
Season: 41.9%
vs Kawhi: 20.6%

Jamal Crawford
Season: 44.7%
vs Kawhi: 23.6%

Holy ...

That's defensive MVP right there. Speaking of, it's pretty ty that Timmy never got one.

[Raven]

DG is the best guard stopper in the league and kawhi is the best F stopper in the league. And honestly, it's not even close.

[testies]

Those numbers are absolutely wrong

Lebron 27%? Did yo uwatch the finals?

[superbigtime]

Or this

Hilarious. The fish out of water routine is one of a kind.

[mercos]

Danny Green and Tony Allen are both on that level. I think Tiago Splitter is quietly moving up the ranks of elite defenders in the NBA as well.