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    there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.
    And timvp.

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    Dude could've had a championship last year.

    He's better than Daye, but that ain't saying much. I think I'd rather have AK but probably won't happen.

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    I would definitely do this trade. Kirilenko gives us that backup 3 / small ball 4 we've been searching for for years. Moreover, it's not unreasonable to think he could have a career renaissance of sorts playing here in San Antonio. Daw looked washed up too a few years ago, when we salvaged him from Charlotte. Look what happened to him.

    The best reason to do this deal, though, would be because it gives us an additional roster spot. That means we'll have the full MLE to spend at the buyout deadline when we can get another impact player to bolster our championship run.

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    Minutes are not that big a deal. Pop spreads minutes so everyone will be fresh. He'd get enough minutes. Plus no coach treats Euro players better than Pop. He respects their game and they all respect him. That's why Belinelli spurned more money to play for Pop.

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    Nets don't want money back... they'll probably look to trade him for a pick + cash...

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    The best reason to do this deal, though, would be because it gives us an additional roster spot. That means we'll have the full MLE to spend at the buyout deadline when we can get another impact player to bolster our championship run.
    Creating a roster spot at the buyout deadline is no obstacle at all.

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    Creating a roster spot at the buyout deadline is no obstacle at all.
    Yeah, but then we'd have to waive a player with guaranteed money. Not too sure Holt would be pleased with that.

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    Yeah, but then we'd have to waive a player with guaranteed money. Not too sure Holt would be pleased with that.
    Waiving Daye in March will cost less than the additional salary in the trade you suggested. It won't be any obstacle at all.

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    that commie had his chance; I was on the fence before and now def dont want.

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    No offense, but I thought that some of my Spurs fellows were smarter tbh

    His PER or his stats right now mean nothing. Just because his move to BK didn't work out as everyone thought, It doesn't mean that he wouldn't be able to fit in San Antonio in a lesser role, especially considering the scrubs that SA has right now to fill that hole.

    Before coming to SA, Diaw was putting 7ppg/5rpg @ 10 PER and 46%TS. So what? He was still a good player in a bad situation, just like AK right now.

    AK is still a good player. He wouldn't be here to get a starting job. He would be Leonard's insurance and a front-court option in the playoffs besides Duncan/Splitter/Diaw

    It's a great opportunity to get a good and proven player for cheap. If SA could land him for cheap, I would absolutely love it.
    P.E.R can be misleading for certain players. Diaw was actually a below average player last season, which obviously isn't true.

    I would take him though I'd be hesitant to cut Daye for him. Part of me thinks that if he ever finds his range again he could be useful in spot minutes against lineups with stretch fours but thats almost certainly never going to happen. He is still a versatile player and wouldn't be a bad pickup.

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    The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.
    It's better than the role he has in BRK. He's playing 5 minutes per game in the few he gets into.

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    It's better than the role he has in BRK. He's playing 5 minutes per game in the few he gets into.
    Well, that's why he's forcing his way out. I doubt he's quitting the Nets to get into a similar situation.

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    we'd need to prepare an exstatic and chumpdumper suidice watch thread if this happened

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    there was some very respectable posters here very upset with the Spurs FO when they didn't get Kirilenko. Especially Bruno IIRC.
    If they were upset for that, they are not respectable posters.

    They are gutter trash.

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    As a backup off the bench for 15 minutes a night to spell Leonard or play small ball PF, why not? Dude kinda sucks now but reminds me of Diaw in Charlotte, aside from being injury prone, I think he just mentally checked out because of the expectations that team had that went laughably wrong. If Daye or Ayres is the asking price I say go for it, Daye is absolute trash and will never be anything useful or special.

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    The thing is, Daye is a very end of the bench guy, regular season minute burner, who is getting extra minutes now largely because we're missing guys. It goes without saying he likely won't see the floor in the playoffs, and he'll see spot minutes during the season. I seriously doubt AK47 would be interested in such a role, tbh.
    He wouldn't have the same role. Daye is the 14th man when they're fully healthy; Kirilenko would probably be 10th from day one, just to find out whether he can help them and is still a rotation player. If he experienced a career revival similar (as in, not to the same extent) to that of Diaw, it's possible he could be the starting PF in match-ups where they have to break up Duncan-Splitter.

    Though unlikely, if he played well enough and the Duncan-Splitter combination struggled offensively to the extent it did last season while smothering Leonard's offense, it's possible they could go this full time. Heck, if the elite defense sans Splitter holds, this would probably be the way to go, whether those issues remain or not.

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    The Spurs should try to upgrade their fourth-big spot, but AK isn't the answer at all. They should have really dumped Daye and used the MLE on McRoberts (who's hurt right now, I know). Maybe the team can see what Orlando wants for Mo Harkless.

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    The Spurs should try to upgrade their fourth-big spot, but AK isn't the answer at all. They should have really dumped Daye and used the MLE on McRoberts (who's hurt right now, I know). Maybe the team can see what Orlando wants for Mo Harkless.
    He's played so little this season and last season battled back issues and was in and out. Clearly, he's past his prime, but I don't know how anyone could say with any certainty that he "isn't the answer at all".

    Harkless is strictly an SF and still a decent prospect (reminds me of a young Ariza, though his shot is further along than Ariza's was at that age), so they'd want actual value in return.

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    Well one thing's for sure...AK47 is the whitest guy in the NBA...he makes Dirk look like Eddie Murphy.

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    He's played so little this season and last season battled back issues and was in and out. Clearly, he's past his prime, but I don't know how anyone could say with any certainty that he "isn't the answer at all".
    None of those factors explain his poor shooting percentage over his career. That's what makes the Splitter/Duncan pairing poor on offense. The point of breaking up that tandem would be to give Kawhi more space to work, but AK wouldn't do that.

    Harkless is strictly an SF and still a decent prospect (reminds me of a young Ariza, though his shot is further along than Ariza's was at that age), so they'd want actual value in return.
    Magic have a glut of front-court players right now. I'd be surprised if they didn't move at least one this season. O'Quinn would be pretty ideal for the Spurs, but he's been hurt.

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    None of those factors explain his poor shooting percentage over his career. That's what makes the Splitter/Duncan pairing poor on offense. The point of breaking up that tandem would be to give Kawhi more space to work, but AK wouldn't do that.



    Magic have a glut of front-court players right now. I'd be surprised if they didn't move at least one this season. O'Quinn would be pretty ideal for the Spurs, but he's been hurt.
    He would, because despite the relative lack of shooting (he's not a total non shooter, like Splitter and his shooting wouldn't be nearly as big an issue as a PF as it would be as an SF), he's got face up skills all the same. He's a good ball handler and excellent passer for his size, plus he's an intuitive cutter and moves well without the ball in general.

    They very well might. I'm just saying, Harkless is more SF than combo forward and not to suggest it's going to take a kings ransom, but it will take more than flotsam and jetsam.

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    He wouldn't have the same role. Daye is the 14th man when they're fully healthy; Kirilenko would probably be 10th from day one, just to find out whether he can help them and is still a rotation player.
    I don't think he would be. He drops here right now, he'll be behind Beli, which AFAIK, is basically the last perimeter bench guy for a playoffs rotation.

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    I don't think he would be. He drops here right now, he'll be behind Beli, which AFAIK, is basically the last perimeter bench guy for a playoffs rotation.
    Barring injury, I seriously doubt they'd play him meaningful minutes at SF. They clearly don't want to have to resort to Bonner anymore when they have to break up Duncan-Splitter, but they have to by default. Kirilenko would simply give them another option, even though he's not nearly the three-point shooter Bonner is obviously.

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    We should look at him in a Rocky IV remake saying I MUST BREAK YOU, Rocky of course will be Belinelli this time.

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