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    but would you rather have Love than one of those PLUS Wiggins?
    If we're guaranteed another big man in the off-season, I'd definitely keep Wiggins and use that cap space to address our deficiencies.

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    ^Bend over. I'll address your in' deficiencies.

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    Aww, Dale. show some class.

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    In a penetration heavy league, the Cavs need a rim protector and not an offensive threat PF who will be used as a 3rd option


    Maybe it's just one game, but his stats also shows he gives up as much points if nor more than he scored, ala Kobe
    The Cavaliers' roster exacerbates Love's defensive limitations

    There's no denying it: Love is one of the worst big men in the league at protecting the rim, allowing a 67.2 percent field goal percentage within six feet. Part of Love's struggles comes down to physical limitations -- he doesn't have the length or the quickness to cover ground -- but there are also bad habits in play, as he doesn't even try to contest shots at times. Other poor defensive big men have the benefit of sharing the court with teammates that mask their flaws. Love doesn't have that luxury.
    Anderson Varejao and Tristan Thompson are both good defensive big men, but it's asking quite a lot of them to defend their own position and also help out Love. The only plus defender in the perimeter is LeBron James. The team's defensive scheme isn't helping, either. If the Cavs settle into a more conservative approach by dropping their big men in the pick-and-roll, it could potentially hide some of Love's limitations.

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/11/...land-cavaliers

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    No shotblockers. Elliott was dead on

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    Kyrie should come off the bench imo
    Stupid comment. Not only he's #2, he's their closer.

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    Stupid comment. He's their closer.
    Lebron?

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    Did you watch his 2 Finals "wins?" He's no closer.

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    Trading away raw players who may never amount to anything for all stars? Ask Dallas fans if they wish they had taken any of those offers for Roddy B right now or Detroit if they had taken any of the offers for Amir Johnson.
    Yeah, you should probably look at the #1 picks who have busted vs the ones who haven't. The likelihood of success between the #1 pick and a late lottery pick is probably huge.

    comparing Roddy B to Wiggins

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    and the Cavs are re ed as anyways. The Great Satan wanted to coast this season which is why he wanted Kevin Love to do all of the heavy lifting. He didn't realize that he put together a ing terrible defensive team.

    bidding against yourself to get Kevin Love
    not keeping Wiggins and getting a defensive anchor
    giving up on Bennett after a year on a ty team
    drafting Bennett in the first place

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    Did you watch his 2 Finals "wins?" He's no closer.
    Oh, I agree. But on a team with Kyrie and Love, I'd probably pick Lebron by default.

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    Oh, I agree. But on a team with Kyrie and Love, I'd probably pick Lebron by default.
    LeHype wants Kyrie to be his Kerr at the end of games. Kyrie is much more than that. Kyrie can make LeHype virtually unstoppable at the end of games with his play making, but LeHype is putrid without the ball in his hands. It'll be interesting to see how this plays out.

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    They should have traded for a defensive minded big instead of Love tbh, trading Wiggins wasn't the issue...

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    and the Cavs are re ed as anyways. The Great Satan wanted to coast this season which is why he wanted Kevin Love to do all of the heavy lifting. He didn't realize that he put together a ing terrible defensive team.

    bidding against yourself to get Kevin Love
    not keeping Wiggins and getting a defensive anchor
    giving up on Bennett after a year on a ty team
    drafting Bennett in the first place
    So much truth in this post

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    Honestly I'm not sure they're a trade out there that makes them le contenders... It's gonna be an headache and I think they may end up trading Irving...

    PG stars have the lowest influence in the POs so that's probably the smartest move in that ty situation...

    Maybe Kyrie + complementary players for Sanders Mayo and Knight... A defensive anchor, a starting SG (kinda) and a PG who could play off the ball...

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    Yeah, you should probably look at the #1 picks who have busted vs the ones who haven't. The likelihood of success between the #1 pick and a late lottery pick is probably huge.

    comparing Roddy B to Wiggins
    He was drafted on potential in a weak draft. Off the top of my head guys like that in terms of potential based on a very small sample size like Olowokandi, Bargnani, and Kwami have been busts and of course were not talking about no brainers number ones like Anthony Davis or Lebron or he would still be in Cleveland.

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    Plus if Embiid doesn't break his foot dude goes third in a draft since reports are Milwaukee was still taking Parker.

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    I do think that trade was a mistake. They probably could have gotten both Asik and Ryan Anderson with their non-Wiggins assets, which would have made their roster much stronger than it is now. Then, Andrew would start as the two-guard, and his only task would be to defend the opposing team's best perimeter threat. That's a role I think he would have excelled in while everything else came. He doesn't have that luxury on the Wolves.

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    Did you watch his 2 Finals "wins?" He's no closer.






    Meanwhile, your "closer" Kyrie is a cancer who's never even made the playoffs.

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    Stupid comment. Not only he's #2, he's their closer.
    If he's not a closer then Kobe isn't too.

    Both mythical sons of es

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    ^Bend over. I'll address your in' deficiencies.
    good one

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    If he's not a closer then Kobe isn't too.

    Both mythical sons of es
    But, those 7 close outs in '10 came in mighty handy when Pierce's pants caught a fire skidding to a stop out at LAX.

    tee, hee.

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    But, those 7 close outs in '10 came in mighty handy when Pierce's pants caught a fire skidding to a stop out at LAX.

    tee, hee.

    P.S., but wtf do you care you treat an NBA le like a loan on a nearly paid off car.

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    But, those 7 close outs in '10 came in mighty handy when Pierce's pants caught a fire skidding to a stop out at LAX.

    tee, hee.
    Bend over and I'll show ya what's on fire

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    LeBron: "We're a very fragile team right now ... And this isn't even the lowest it can get"


    GM Lebron is mad. Someone is gonna get shipped.

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