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    So you have nuke envy on behalf on the Arabs?

    But I do agree Israel is acting paranoid at the moment, although I empathize with their paranoia since Arabs and Jews have blood feuded for 1400 years.
    The israeli left has disappeared, and if they try to organize the right wing groups show up with weapons while the popo laugh at the bloodbath. It's a dismal situation over there, the nationalists have completely taken over, and nothing but bad things are going to happen in the near future.

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    A microcosm really, of overzealous nationalism + religion leading to nothing but hatred and violence. And the ones with the bigger weapons swing their s like their nation and their religion are superior, both morally and biblically. Toxic mixture.

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    semantics. Your entire argument was based on some imaginary army of Mexicans flooding the border in 2014, overwhelming those patriotic militia men, taking over all social services, hospitals, schools!!! Oh wait, the population is declining? Hmm, let me find another argument.
    It's actually not imaginary, considering 2.8 million undo ented immigrants live in California.

    Quit being hyperbolic. I never stated they are taking over anything. But their presence has put a strain on services and resulted in school/hospital overcrowding.

    But that's a good thing, because equality or compassion or something.

    The reason you rally for unfettered immigration so much is because conservatives are against it. It's as petty as that.

    I'm not even against immigration. And I don't see it as an unreasonable request to employ certain requirements to citizenship, like being able to speak capable (not even necessarily conversational) English, which takes the average person about 300 hours to learn, which is like a week in Mexican laborer time.
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    It's actually no imaginary, considering 2.8 million undo ented immigrants live in California.

    Quit being hyperbolic. I never stated they are taking over anything. But their presence has put a strain on services and resulted in school/hospital overcrowding.

    But that's a good thing, because equality or compassion or something.

    The reason you rally for unfettered immigration so much is because conservatives are against it. It's as petty as that.

    I'm not even against immigration. And I don't see it as an unreasonable request to employ certain requirements to citizenship, like being able to speak capable (not even necessarily conversational) English, which takes the average person about 300 hours to learn, which is like a week in Mexican laborer time.

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    Dub post

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    A microcosm really, of overzealous nationalism + religion leading to nothing but hatred and violence. And the ones with the bigger weapons swing their s like their nation and their religion are superior, both morally and biblically. Toxic mixture.
    You're right. But that doesn't mean one side is inherently morally right.

    But I understand your position of wanting fairness (re: military capability) for both belligerents. That doesn't mean the Arabs aren't bas s themselves and should be "supported."

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    Don't think the Aztecs or Mayans were ever natives of California, to my knowledge.
    You do realize your ancestors don't necessarily have to live in the same region as you, right?

    The Spanish were there for about 300 years earlier than 1850, and I highly doubt most non-Hispanics of the region, even today, speak Spanish. There are other native tribes than the Aztecs and Mayans.

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    You do realize your ancestors don't necessarily have to live in the same region as you, right?

    The Spanish were there for about 300 years earlier than 1850, and I highly doubt most non-Hispanics of the region, even today, speak Spanish. There are other native tribes than the Aztecs and Mayans.
    Yeah, I know. You're probably speaking of the various Mission Indian tribes in Southern California (many of whom are part Mexican)? Again, I just find it funny when a Mexican who probably has no native ancestry that was indigenous to Southern California (but probably has Spanish ancestry) self-righteously caterwauls about this being "their land," when their ancestors raped and pillaged just like any other conqueror.

    Land has been settled, stolen, and lost throughout human history. Question is how do you do determine who has the rightful moral claim to a land?

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    semantics. Your entire argument was based on some imaginary army of Mexicans flooding the border in 2014, overwhelming those patriotic militia men, taking over all social services, hospitals, schools!!! Oh wait, the population is declining? Hmm, let me find another argument.
    he never said anything close to that effect, you re .

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