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    Don't really want Gasol unless Splitter is part of a trade for a legit starting four-man. The Spurs will need to continue to move away from a two-center SL as Parker ages and Kawhi post-ups become a stable in the offense. And I still prefer Lopez to Gasol as far as potential 2015 centers go.

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    Obviously, a legit PF would be ideal, but they're not doing better than Gasol (not that they have any chance at him; I'd be shocked if he didn't re-sign), so I'd make an exception in his case.

    He's got another year after this one, but Horford would be ideal. Spurs material on and off the court and can credibly play both big positions on both ends, so he'd work well with either Splitter or Diaw. Perfect third member of a new big three, too.

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    Obviously, a legit PF would be ideal, but they're not doing better than Gasol (not that they have any chance at him; I'd be shocked if he didn't re-sign), so I'd make an exception in his case.

    He's got another year after this one, but Horford would be ideal. Spurs material on and off the court and can credibly play both big positions on both ends, so he'd work well with either Splitter or Diaw. Perfect third member of a new big three, too.
    Eh, I keep hearing about how Horford is a natural PF, but I've yet to see him look it in games. Dude seems to be an undersized center. I don't think he'd fit with Asik or Jordan, for example. He could make it work with Splitter, but I think that would be a step in the wrong direction for the team.

    I wouldn't mind Al Jefferson. I know people complain about his D, but he's one of the top offensive players in the game, in my opinion. I think these last couple of years in Charlotte have really helped develop his game on both ends. He's not a good defender, but he'd be decent with Splitter.

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    Eh, I keep hearing about how Horford is a natural PF, but I've yet to see him look it in games. Dude seems to be an undersized center. I don't think he'd fit with Asik or Jordan, for example. He could make it work with Splitter, but I think that would be a step in the wrong direction for the team.

    I wouldn't mind Al Jefferson. I know people complain about his D, but he's one of the top offensive players in the game, in my opinion. I think these last couple of years in Charlotte have really helped develop his game on both ends. He's not a good defender, but he'd be decent with Splitter.
    Then you must not have seen much of him. He is a natural PF and he's a near elite mid range shooter and a good passer. He's the rare big that could be paired with any big and make it work.

    Jefferson wouldn't be as good a fit. He's a decent mid range shooter, but the bulk of his offense comes from the low post and Splitter obviously couldn't space the floor around his post ups. He also can't defend PF's anymore.

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    Ideal replacement but you can search higher
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    My issue with Horford is his durability. He's missed a lot of games in his 7 year career, including a couple of season where he couldn't crack 30 games. I also don't see him as a guy that can really get physical for the grind that's the playoffs.

    The latter is also a concern with Al Jefferson. Frankly, Gasol would be a great addition, I just think it's a pipe dream at this juncture.

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    Then you must not have seen much of him. He is a natural PF and he's a near elite mid range shooter and a good passer. He's the rare big that could be paired with any big and make it work.
    The type of shot he shoots is one that most good offensive centers take nowadays. He might be really good at it, but I don't see that being what he expect from most PFs in the future (or even now). Every time I see him, he's picking up most of his points off garbage buckets. That's not a bad thing; it's just not what I really want in a member of the new Big Three. I'm not saying I don't like Al. I do, and if he were a free agent next summer, I'd want the team to be all over him. But that's just not the case.

    Jefferson wouldn't be as good a fit. He's a decent mid range shooter, but the bulk of his offense comes from the low post and Splitter obviously couldn't space the floor around his post ups. He also can't defend PF's anymore.
    Defense isn't really a big issue, since Splitter can guard both positions. Offense is the important part, though, I agree. I actually think Jefferson being a dominant post scorer is best for the team. He can completely define an offense with his skill on the block, and that's exactly what the post-Duncan Spurs will need to do. That's why I think they need to prioritize an offensive big over a two-way big. They simply need another dominant scorer to balance the team, and Jefferson is the best one who's potentially on the market. Incidentally, Lopez is the second-best while also being a good shot-blocker. That's why Brook was at the top of my Pick-3 list.

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    Pectoral tears in back to back seasons are obviously a concern, but people have to be realistic: They're not getting a young Duncan. It's easy to poke holes in everyone else, but he's probably the best realistic candidate in the next few years.

    You don't have to play a big that shoots threes for 48 minutes per game. As long as one of the bigs can shoot from 15-18 feet, pass and defend PF's, it can work. Horford can do all three of those things.


    Splitter can guard most PF's now; but for how much longer? Once upon a time, Duncan was a C that could credibly guard PF's, until he got into his 30's and his mobility declined to the point that he no longer could. Going forward, Splitter will be better served guarding his natural position.

    Jefferson is relatively young still, but has a lot of mileage for his age and has been an undersized big that plays a physical style for his entire career, so he probably doesn't have much time left as a dominant scorer.

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    Love could be available the way things are going tbh

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    Defense isn't really a big issue, since Splitter can guard both positions. Offense is the important part, though, I agree. I actually think Jefferson being a dominant post scorer is best for the team. He can completely define an offense with his skill on the block, and that's exactly what the post-Duncan Spurs will need to do. That's why I think they need to prioritize an offensive big over a two-way big. They simply need another dominant scorer to balance the team, and Jefferson is the best one who's potentially on the market. Incidentally, Lopez is the second-best while also being a good shot-blocker. That's why Brook was at the top of my Pick-3 list.
    I think you're flat out wrong. Pairing Splitter with Al Jefferson or Millsap? Welcome to a world with no rim protection whatsoever. Splitter is a good pick and roll defender but he averages a career 0.6 blocks per game. When Timmy leaves, our main priority will be to replace his defence and rebounding.

    And when Splitter sits, we go with a 2 big man lineup of Jefferson and Diaw? It'll be a layup line in the paint all game long.

    Brook Lopez and Al Horford are better options, but neither would fit in as seamlessly with Diaw and Splitter as Gasol would. I also think you underrate Gasol as a low post player, he's not his brother but he can score on the block with his size, although the Grizz would rather go to Randolph who is one of the leagues best.

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    Marc gasol is a free agent this summer and pretty much every team who has enough cap room will be after him. Larry H. Russell broke some news that Rajon Rondo went to upper management that he wants them to get Marc. Wallace put a definitive answer out there “We have every intention of re-signing Marc Gasol. So those teams are going to have to find another player.”

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    He's not going anywhere tbh. He loves the city, they love him, and they have the best record in the NBA right now and will likely only be better next year.

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    i dont see how memphis gets any better going forward though

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    Lol didn't you give up on Timmy like a decade ago?

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    Marc gasol is a free agent this summer and pretty much every team who has enough cap room will be after him. Larry H. Russell broke some news that Rajon Rondo went to upper management that he wants them to get Marc. Wallace put a definitive answer out there “We have every intention of re-signing Marc Gasol. So those teams are going to have to find another player.”

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    He's not going anywhere tbh. He loves the city, they love him, and they have the best record in the NBA right now and will likely only be better next year.
    The team that usually starts with the best record never ends with the best record. They will have
    another exit in the playoffs and Gasol will think twice about staying. Likely be better? Thats always said about the Grizzlies.

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    Lol didn't you give up on Timmy like a decade ago?
    I'm glad he proved me wrong.

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    The team that usually starts with the best record never ends with the best record. They will have
    another exit in the playoffs and Gasol will think twice about staying. Likely be better? Thats always said about the Grizzlies.
    Agree but Gasol will think if the Spurs will be the same champ team without Tim and Manu, too.

    Spurs interested in Gasol, Pau said he can see his brother playing for NYK, Rondo said he wants Boston get Marc, Grizz said they will re-signing him...Should be funny summer.

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    Don't really want Gasol unless Splitter is part of a trade for a legit starting four-man. The Spurs will need to continue to move away from a two-center SL as Parker ages and Kawhi post-ups become a stable in the offense. And I still prefer Lopez to Gasol as far as potential 2015 centers go.


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    wait, he prefers Lopez to Gasol, I need to laugh more at this


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    wait, he prefers Lopez to Gasol, I need to laugh more at this

    Actually pretty unabashed about it. I like Gasol, but he's also getting mad overrated.

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    If we're going to have another 100+ page thread on a Gasol this offseason, this may as well be it.


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    If we're going to have another 100+ page thread on a Gasol this offseason, this may as well be it.

    Spurs are the pretty girl at the office who has all the wives worried.

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    No! He quit on them in the 4th quarter last night! Played half-assed no defense! Only one to play in that series was Conley & Z-Bo!

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    I don't think he's ultimately leaving Memphis, but he'll do his due diligence and might even meet with other teams. Memphis needs to show him that theyre going to add pieces to take them over the top. They've been toiling in the 4-7 seed range for five years or so without taking the next step. ZBo is getting older and Conley will be a coveted Free agent next summer.

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    If we're going to have another 100+ page thread on a Gasol this offseason, this may as well be it.

    I know this team is going to blow up if Duncan leaves, but I would love for them to pick up Marc and send a package deal to Chicago to get Pau for the last two years of his contract. I think Chicago is going to try to rebuild and have some trade options.

    Marc
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    two great passing bigs who give great spacing, Pau being more offensive minded. Putting into account a small drop off for Pau due to age, I could see

    Leonard 19/7/4
    Pau 18/10/3
    Marc 16/8/3
    TP 15/3/5
    DG 14/5/3

    yoy can't expect the Gasoline brothers to carry a team, because they can't (as seen in FIBA) but as a 2-3 option they could really strive and push a team over the edge
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    I can't see him and Duncan playing together, but if course he'd be a great get for the team.

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