12 year old tamir rice shot dead by cleveland police

[hitmanyr2k]

These days it's almost like they have potential cops take an IQ test and the one with the lowest score gets the job. What kind of dumbass police officer puts his partner's life in danger by driving right up to the person suspected of having a gun? What if the kid really was dangerous and had malicious intent? When you drive right up to him your partner is just sitting there in the passenger seat like a dumbass without any protection whatsoever and can get blasted through the window. The driver put his partner in a stupid situation where he had no time to assess anything being so close to the kid. Where do these officers get their training from, videogames?

[Creepn]

Catch phrases might sound cool to you but they don't gain any traction in decent conversations. Cops draw their guns to shoot. Cops with drawn guns are cops who will shoot if you draw a gun on them. Why will they shoot? What should they wait for before shooting, gunfire from the suspect?

Yeah that's fine and dandy except that it's supposed to be a last resort. Not the case here. Don't give me that "ooh why take that chance?" because I've seen cops successfully disarm a suspect verbally many times. A lot of those situations lasted over 10 minutes too.

[midnightpulp]

there are absolutely cases of excess force, cops being too trigger happy, or just over-reaching their rights. they probably do get away more often than they should when they do commit a wrong

my beef with all this is, people pretend to care about the overarching issue, but they only show their care when there's a racial angle they can play. they also refuse to accept the possibility than the cop's action might have been justified in a particular case

i think its crazy by now that there aren't more videos... where was officer wilson's camera? or at least something to pick up an audio recording. but even this isn't foolproof. the dillon taylor case was all caught on camera and he still got off the hook. THAT is the most maddening case of it all, but nobody here even pretends to give a about it, because they can't play the "racial victim" or "oppression" angle

This. This incident wouldn't even be a blip on Trill's "social justice" radar if the victim was named Joey Smith and he had blond hair and blue eyes.

[The Reckoning]

it is funny how our military can't engage without being fired at first but our police can shoot first

[Trill Clinton]

trill doesn't care about the little spencer and becky's of the world

[Trill Clinton]

unlike you soulless, demonic, pieces of , i care about innocent children of all races who are victims of violence and abuse. i have made several threads covering white, black, latino and asian children who died or were victims of abuse or neglect at the hands of an demonic adult.

[lefty]

[Koolaid_Man]

unlike you soulless, demonic, pieces of , i care about innocent children of all races who are victims of violence and abuse. i have made several threads covering white, black, latino and asian children who died or were victims of abuse or neglect at the hands of an demonic adult.

Amen brother....of course we care...but the point in all this is to say that we're focused on the minority that get preyed upon by white devils and cops ....white kids don't get mistaken for 20 yr old adults because they aren't demonized as such...here's a good example of this at ude by the uncle Tom's of the world who perpetuate the negative views and think like the morally bankrupt white people who think like this...

[Koolaid_Man]

[benefactor]

Does it even matter to anyone that this is Cleveland? They are consistently one of the top ten most violent cities in the US. I can't imagine anyone who would want to be a cop in that hole...and I sure as am not going to blame a cop for protecting himself with deadly force in a place like that.

give the kid more time to put the gun down ......where the do you live? This isn't rural ing America where little Tommy can go around waving a fake gun and no one care. It's a violent, crime ridden, drug ridden stain of a city where cops have to make snap decisions or they die. Kids in these cities are not regular kids...they learn to be violent from a young age because that's all they've grown up in. The real sad thing is there is no good solution to fix it because no one really cares. They'd rather sit back and point fingers instead of looking at the real, underlying problem. Cities like Cleveland, Detroit, Memphis, etc. are what they are and no one seems intent on finding a way to change that. There's a deep rooted environmental issue...one that cops have to deal with in a certain way for their own protection. These white tree hugging gots/victim card blacks can get online and cry all they want about the injustices these police are committing but they couldn't walk a ing day in their shoes working in one of those cities. They'd be dead or get the beat out of them in less than a week.

[Bill Cosby]

it is funny

it's not.

[Relevancy]

I stopped reading after the boy reaches for his toy gun after the officer told him to put his hands up.

[Bill Cosby]

the boy reaches for the officer hands.

[DMC]

Yeah that's fine and dandy except that it's supposed to be a last resort. Not the case here. Don't give me that "ooh why take that chance?" because I've seen cops successfully disarm a suspect verbally many times. A lot of those situations lasted over 10 minutes too.

What other resorts are there when someone is pulling a gun on you? Scream louder? Run? Cry? Shoot into the sky? Freeze time? The mistrust between black youth and cops is fueled in part by the bias people like you put onto every confrontation, painting all cops as racist trigger happy militants. So I hope you feel good about being part of the reason a 12 year old decided pulling out a fake gun against a real one was a good idea. da police, right?

[jag]

Trill Clinton has become one of the worst posters on this forum. It's sad because he used to be a cool dude.

He's completely gone off the deep end.

[DMC]

also... "don't wave your fake gun around and point it at people while you pretend to be a thug"

[Koolaid_Man]

Trill Clinton has become one of the worst posters on this forum. It's sad because he used to be a cool dude.

He's completely gone off the deep end.

Trill doesn't agree with me

[lefty]

also... "don't wave your fake gun around and point it at people while you pretend to be a thug"

scared pussy dumb white cop who can't tell a real gun from a fake one
afraid of 12 year old kids with plastic toys

[hitmanyr2k]

What other resorts are there when someone is pulling a gun on you? Scream louder? Run? Cry? Shoot into the sky? Freeze time? The mistrust between black youth and cops is fueled in part by the bias people like you put onto every confrontation, painting all cops as racist trigger happy militants. So I hope you feel good about being part of the reason a 12 year old decided pulling out a fake gun against a real one was a good idea. da police, right?

In this case yeah I say da police because these two were imbeciles. How about not rolling up on the kid like that in the first place stupidly putting yourself in danger? I don't know who trained these dumbass cops but if they're so petrified of black youth maybe they shouldn't be putting themselves in situations by rolling up on a person suspected of having a gun and then having to jump out of the car in a split second and make a decision of whether to shoot or not. Like I said before, the driver put his partner in harm's way. If the kid did have an intent to shoot he could have just started blasting the cop in the passenger seat as soon as they drove up so close to him. If every cop were making these same idiotic mistakes there would be many more people getting shot. The kid wasn't even doing anything that justified them rolling up like that. I could see if he were waving his gun around and threatening someone at that very moment but he wasn't. They had time for better options.

[DMC]

In this case yeah I say da police because these two were imbeciles. How about not rolling up on the kid like that in the first place stupidly putting yourself in danger? I don't know who trained these dumbass cops but if they're so petrified of black youth maybe they shouldn't be putting themselves in situations by rolling up on a person suspected of having a gun and then having to jump out of the car in a split second and make a decision of whether to shoot or not. Like I said before, the driver put his partner in harm's way. If the kid did have an intent to shoot he could have just started blasting the cop in the passenger seat as soon as they drove up so close to him. If every cop were making these same idiotic mistakes there would be many more people getting shot. The kid wasn't even doing anything that justified them rolling up like that. I could see if he were waving his gun around and threatening someone at that very moment but he wasn't. They had time for better options.

Obviously the civilian who called was also "petrified by black youth". Black man with gun waving it around... sounds like a job for the cops. Why didn't the caller confront him, just a kid with a toy gun, right?

You too have the convenience of hindsight. You're not in a cruiser responding to "black man waving and pointing handgun near rec center"... You get a slew of articles and discovery facts that the first responders don't get. , you and a few others here jump to snap judgments when the facts are available, and you criticize as if you're level headed.

[DMC]

scared pussy dumb white cop who can't tell a real gun from a fake one
afraid of 12 year old kids with plastic toys

Airsoft guns are replicas. Most people can't tell them apart without closer examination.

[hitmanyr2k]

Obviously the civilian who called was also "petrified by black youth". Black man with gun waving it around... sounds like a job for the cops. Why didn't the caller confront him, just a kid with a toy gun, right?

You just answered your own question. It's not the civilian's job to go up and question the kid if he's waving a gun around at the moment. He's not trained or equipped to handle the situation if the kid is crazy so he called the cops. Duh

You too have the convenience of hindsight. You're not in a cruiser responding to "black man waving and pointing handgun near rec center"... You get a slew of articles and discovery facts that the first responders don't get. , you and a few others here jump to snap judgments when the facts are available, and you criticize as if you're level headed.

I have the convenience of common sense. And if I'm responding to a call of someone waving a gun around I'm not going to just roll up on him in a haphazard manner and hope for the best. And if my partner makes that dumbass suggestion with me in the passenger seat facing the supposed gunman I'm going to tell him to find another way where I have some in cover in case the kid comes up blasting. These cops were idiots, bottom line.

[Relevancy]

Plus the kid was out there pointing the gun at people, who the does that in public? Based on his decision making he was probably gonna get into some deep in the future that would have resulted in a similar outcome.

[Koolaid_Man]

Plus the kid was out there pointing the gun at people, who the does that in public? Based on his decision making he was probably gonna get into some deep in the future that would have resulted in a similar outcome.

it is indeed a tragedy but like most kids maybe he was playing cops and robbers with himself...or reenacting shooting at criminals from his video games....the fact that the cops literally shot him within 1.2-2 seconds of stopping their car means they overreacted...almost all kids play with guns and point them at people....I did it too as I'm sure most of us did....Cops always have bad data when in a black neighborhood....you don't mistake a 11-12 yr old with a 20 yr old...

[lefty]

Airsoft guns are replicas. Most people can't tell them apart without closer examination.

A trained cop should know tbh