Yahoo: Spurs' talks for Andrei Kirilenko end without deal

[Mel_13]

Whoops.
So Ellis now fits in the Blazers/Splitter trade thread. Had we waited, the Mavericks may have been prepared to overpay.

I agree.

They were wining and dining Dalembert yesterday.

[spurraider21]

46 pages AFTER talks ended

[100%duncan]

46 pages AFTER talks ended

You wanted him too

Tee hee

[spurraider21]

You wanted him too

Tee hee

of course i did. i was a big contributor in the Pau thread too

[DPG21920]

None of this changes the fact that Jeff Ayres was a terrible move.

[cd021]

None of this changes the fact that Jeff Ayres was a terrible move.

True. As much as people call AK47 washed up he would have been a very nice get for us coming off a crushing loss that off season.

RC winning the Executive of the year by bringing in Ayers and Beli. Beli did have a very good season last year but Ayers has been a bust. He Hasn't had one overly great year as an GM (in terms of free agency) but has assembled a championship team in unorthodox ways over multiple seasons that was hard to ignore in terms of success.

-Drafting Splitter who became a two way starting center with the 28th pick in the draft
-Drafting Blair with the 37th pick in the draft
-Signing Diaw after being waived by the 'Cats
-Trading Hill in return for Kawhi Leonard
-Finding Danny Green who was cut by the Cavs

Phoenix's Gm was a much better choice (swapping Gortat and Scola for 1st rounders, Gerard Green, Plumlee and acquiring Bledsoe for Jared Dudley )

[Hoops Czar]

True. As much as people call AK47 washed up he would have been a very nice get for us coming off a crushing loss that off season.

RC winning the Executive of the year by bringing in Ayers and Beli. Beli did have a very good season last year but Ayers has been a bust. He Hasn't had one overly great year as an GM (in terms of free agency) but has assembled a championship team in unorthodox ways over multiple seasons that was hard to ignore in terms of success.

-Drafting Splitter who became a two way starting center with the 28th pick in the draft
-Drafting Blair with the 37th pick in the draft
-Signing Diaw after being waived by the 'Cats
-Trading Hill in return for Kawhi Leonard
-Finding Danny Green who was cut by the Cavs

Phoenix's Gm was a much better choice (swapping Gortat and Scola for 1st rounders, Gerard Green, Plumlee and acquiring Bledsoe for Jared Dudley )

Blair was highly overrated; Diaw was an overweight bust for the Cats and Green was cut by the Spurs before he was waived by the Cavs.

[exstatic]

True. As much as people call AK47 washed up he would have been a very nice get for us coming off a crushing loss that off season.

RC winning the Executive of the year by bringing in Ayers and Beli. Beli did have a very good season last year but Ayers has been a bust. He Hasn't had one overly great year as an GM (in terms of free agency) but has assembled a championship team in unorthodox ways over multiple seasons that was hard to ignore in terms of success.

-Drafting Splitter who became a two way starting center with the 28th pick in the draft
-Drafting Blair with the 37th pick in the draft
-Signing Diaw after being waived by the 'Cats
-Trading Hill in return for Kawhi Leonard
-Finding Danny Green who was cut by the Cavs

Phoenix's Gm was a much better choice (swapping Gortat and Scola for 1st rounders, Gerard Green, Plumlee and acquiring Bledsoe for Jared Dudley )

Signing a guy for $2.7M who scores 11 points, shoots 48.5% overall and 43% from 3, and rests one of your most important players is more than some have done for the EOY award. I mean, Brian Colangelo won the award, TWICE, and he's a bum.

[cd021]

Blair was highly overrated; Diaw was an overweight bust for the Cats and Green was cut by the Spurs before he was waived by the Cavs.

Hard to call Blair overrated for how productive he was, while making fewer than $4 million dollars in his time in S.A. Advanced numbers show that he was an above average player in his 4 seasons in S.A (17 P.E.R, .138 WS Per 48 and a Net Rtg of +6) Looking back at that '09 draft (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_NB...#Draft_lottery) Blair ended up being probably the 10th best player in that draft, despite going 37th. Ironically Daye and Ayers were drafted ahead of him that year and both haven't had the career he's had.

Green was drafted by the Cavs then cut by the Spurs twice before getting a 3rd (or technically 4th shot). Manu broke his hand and TJ Ford got injured, forcing Neal frpm the backup 2 guard to the backup PG. Green went from 3rd string to the starting lineup and played well enough to bring Manu off the bench.

Kind of made my point about Diaw. He was viewed as a bust after a great run in PHX. He was signed and became a starter and eventually became one the best role players in the NBA. It was a small risk that turned into a big success.

[cd021]

Signing a guy for $2.7M who scores 11 points, shoots 48.5% overall and 43% from 3, and rests one of your most important players is more than some have done for the EOY award. I mean, Brian Colangelo won the award, TWICE, and he's a bum.

Sure but when thats your resume for last season, it sounds fairly obvious that it was more of a career achievement award. In a way that makes perfect since because it takes time for draft picks to pan out and free agents to acclimate to the system. In a way he was getting his 11-12 award three seasons later (Trading for KL, re-signing Green, and signing Mills & Diaw late in the season)

[Ice009]

I still recall reading back in the 2007 playoffs when the Spurs were playing the Jazz that Kirilenko had booked a holiday before the series was even over.

That still sticks with me, and if he has that type of mentality (to just give up during a series), then I'm not sure I'd want a player like that on the team.