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Wouldn't be surprised, although Tate seems to have issues with time shares. He'll have trouble just about anywhere he goes with this mindset.
good. he cost me my fantasy game this weekend.
Wouldn't be surprised, although Tate seems to have issues with time shares. He'll have trouble just about anywhere he goes with this mindset.
LaGarrette Blount gone too...Raiders and Colts!
The Football era is here.
http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...sition-starterBEREA, Ohio -- Brian Hoyer does not believe he should lose his job as the Cleveland Browns' quarterback.
"We're 7-5," Hoyer said Monday, one day after he was replaced in the fourth quarter by Johnny Manziel in a 26-10 loss to Buffalo. "That just doesn't happen by luck. It was hard-earned and we've worked to get where we're at. And we're still in it.
"With those other teams [Pittsburgh and Baltimore] losing yesterday, we have four more games; two of them are division games. You don't get to 7-5 in the NFL just by lucking into it."
Hoyer said he also feels he's established himself as an NFL starter.
"We're 7-5 here," he said. "We won three games last year when I started; 10-5 as a starting quarterback, that's not bad."
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Hoyer was pulled with 12:01 left, after he had thrown two interceptions and the Browns had scored three points. Hoyer said on the first interception he expected Josh Gordon to cross in front of a safety and threw it that way, but Gordon took the route deep.
"Even Josh came up to me and said, 'That was my fault,'" Hoyer said.
The second interception Hoyer said was a bad throw. In three games, Hoyer has one touchdown pass and six interceptions. In the past two the numbers are no touchdowns and five interceptions.
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Hoyer ranks 12th in the league with 3,105 yards, but his rating has dropped from the low 90s to 79.9, which is 27th. He is 33rd with a completion percentage of 56.2, and 10th with a yards per attempt of 7.74.
Hoyer points out that the Browns remain alive in the playoff chase.
"I think I've proven I've gotten us to this point and I feel like I can carry us through the next four games," Hoyer said. "There's no doubt in my mind that I'll be ready to go."
Why do people act like this desperate scrub is some class act?
I've led us to this, I've led us to that, I'm an NFL starter, even Josh said it was his fault not mine, I'm going to look visibly asshurt when Football leads the team on an 80 yard TD drive, etc. Few things are more annoying than scrubs who aren't humble tbh.
Kenny Hill took a massive on Foozeball's college football legacy last night, and Foozeball answers with a resounding 6/17 for 83 yds against high school janitors.
offence went into tank with alex mack's injury, jet hoyer still got his team to a shocking 7-5 record. Johnny Bench is a good idea for the tank, pettine showed major weakness there and surely lost his qb in the free agency. Sad ending, but it will be fun to watch Bench for a few games until he gets on a wheelchair.
What do the great teams all have in common? Stabilty and talent at coach/QB. The Browns with a rookie coach who doesn't know who his QB will be....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah I like Hoyer, but this is poor form. He really only has himself to blame for getting pulled. IMO Pettine did not want to pull Hoyer at any time and would have only done so if he felt he had no choice.http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11...sition-starter
Why do people act like this desperate scrub is some class act?
I've led us to this, I've led us to that, I'm an NFL starter, even Josh said it was his fault not mine, I'm going to look visibly asshurt when Football leads the team on an 80 yard TD drive, etc. Few things are more annoying than scrubs who aren't humble tbh.
Hoyer is a game-manager so his biggest value comes in not making many mistakes. When he's throwing picks like he's done the last few weeks his value diminishes to say the least.
Actually, Josh Gordon's return has contributed to Hoyer's downfall. He's been forcing it in to Gordon- IIRC four of his five INTs the last two weeks have been on balls intended for Gordon. There are times in which Gordon doesn't exactly fight for his QB but it's still on Hoyer for trying to jam it in to him when he shouldn't.
You don't make this move right now. Dumbass Pettine.
Surely his last two games have nothing to do with Gordon being back and the playcalling being designed to force feed him the ball....
Yeah, lets bench the guy thats led us to a winning record for a scrub who doesnt study the playbook and who's style of play will have him killed by the third game. Such a Browns move.
If I was Hoyer I'd give Pettine the middle finger and say 'If you start this clown I'm ing out'. Quite a few teams out there that could use him.
Typical Browns (and typical FkTrannies). Pro Bowl center out? Josh Gordon coming back and completely disrupting the chemistry of the offense? Must be Hoyer's fault!
It's clear they were looking for any excuse to bench Hoyer for Inbred, which makes one wonder why they ever started him in the first place. This is why the Browns will always be the Browns.
whichever gives josh gordon the most fantasy value is the one i want to start... i traded emmanuel sanders for foster because i was counting on gordon
i'm serious when i say this: the one who has a weaker arm and gets to feed gordon at the line of scrimmage or close, allowing him to do all the damage after the catch.whichever gives josh gordon the most fantasy value is the one i want to start
Hoyer sucks
i dont disagree. that works pretty well with demaryius too
What y'all actually thought Football was gonna ride the bench forever? He's a 1st round pick, he was bound to get his shot at some point.
The Football era is here.
Johnny Bench
As much as I agree with Hoyer being benched on Sunday I admire Pettine's guts in making this decision, if this is really what's going down. It would have been easy to play to the fans and the media and make the switch. And I do still have faith that Hoyer will bounce back and play well.
I'll tell you, though, if Hoyer gets off to a slow start against the Colts the fans will be all over him. He's a tough guy, but it'll be a test of his for ude. He'll not only be going against the Colts defense, he'll be going up against a home crowd that wants to and expected to see his backup. Again, that's assuming this report is true.
But I thought Pettine wanted to bench poor Hoyer at the first chance?
He deserves to start one last time I have no problem with it. And Pettine clearly favors him, but it's only a matter of time. Hoyer is melting down both on and off the field...I've never seen a dude state how this is his team, his job, throw around his record as a starter, etc the way he's been doing all week. Its kinda weird and cringeworthy since he's an average QB at best. First INT or a couple of three and outs and the pound will be calling for Football tbh.
I don't know about anyone else, but I thought the opposite- that Pettine did NOT want to bench Hoyer unless he felt his hand was forced. Pettine has been firmly in Hoyer's corner since the beginning.
Yeah, it's obvious Pettine favors him.
It was directed at the people that are too blinded by their hate for Football to see it. I saw your post from 1-2 days ago so I was aware of you stance on this tbh.
so Johnny Bench still true to his name...
Hoyer sucks, but benching him would be pretty stupid, tbh..
The Browns are much better than expected, and whether or not Hoyer has played a significant role in the improvement is debatable, but he's still the QB on an over-achieving team, I don't think you can bench him immediately after he goes through a rough stretch..I'd give him 1 more game, tbh..
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