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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    2010's: This should be known as the advanced age of offensive sophistication.

    The game is now based on passing, where ball movement and teamwork is causing defensive breakdowns, and blessing us, the viewers, with the purest form of basketball.

    The offense is so sophisticated, and the passes are so effective, that they don't even show up in the box scores!

    In 2014, the average NBA team have 1804 assists leading to 3093 FG, or in other words, 58% of the FGs are assisted. The top team had 2041 assists on 3061 FGs, that's 66.7% of the field goals assisted.

    Looking back, in 2004, those numbers are 1747/2871/60.8% for an average team, and 2152/3103 for 69.4%

    1994, known as the worst year of the ISO ball era, 2000/3225/62% and 2179/3207/67.9 respectively

    Run and gun 1984? 2148/3566/60.2% and 2192/3344/65.6%

    Such sophistication.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    It's the age of the rockhead and their protection under political correctness doctrines. 29 teams practice this, devoutly. I'm just the unfortunate that the 1 who doesn't is mine enemy.

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    OP is being a dummy on purpose I guess.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    OP is being a dummy on purpose I guess.
    I know, and I'm shocked, he usually has an air about him.

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    2010's: This should be known as the advanced age of offensive sophistication.

    The game is now based on passing, where ball movement and teamwork is causing defensive breakdowns, and blessing us, the viewers, with the purest form of basketball.

    The offense is so sophisticated, and the passes are so effective, that they don't even show up in the box scores!

    In 2014, the average NBA team have 1804 assists leading to 3093 FG, or in other words, 58% of the FGs are assisted. The top team had 2041 assists on 3061 FGs, that's 66.7% of the field goals assisted.

    Looking back, in 2004, those numbers are 1747/2871/60.8% for an average team, and 2152/3103 for 69.4%

    1994, known as the worst year of the ISO ball era, 2000/3225/62% and 2179/3207/67.9 respectively

    Run and gun 1984? 2148/3566/60.2% and 2192/3344/65.6%

    Such sophistication.
    Amb with the not so subtle goods but some STILL won't get it.
    Shots fired!

    Spurs and Mavs to some degree play such great ball. I think only the Lecheat were even close but sometimes became iso and pnr heavy. RC and Pop should teach clinics and charge a million for Brooks, McHale, Scott etc to attend.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Passin is more complex now for sure though. The ways to screen and get people open is more than what teams did in the 80s and 90s. Part of that is due to the rules opening up the perimeter to allow better movement (big ball and people) but parrot that is due to necessity because of better team defenses with less restrictionson illegal defenses.

    That said, players have always passed.

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    Lol at sophistication

    It has more to do with the implementation of zone D

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    The Timeless One Leetonidas's Avatar
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    I don't think using assists as the end all be all stat for offensive sophistication makes much sense tbh

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    I agree an evolution has happened. The game when played through passing, screens and picks is a lot more fluid and when all 5 players are threats (not in the traditional, they can all break a dude down one on one) but through spacing and specializing. This is what the Spurs have been able to do when their traditional one on one threats Duncan, Manu and Parker have regressed due to mileage and wear and tear. I swear, last year's Spurs run as a bball fan was the best I've seen in a long time.

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    I swear, last year's Spurs run as a bball fan was the best I've seen in a long time.
    All it lacked was Amy making an encore.

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    All it lacked was Amy making an encore.
    And kobe bricking err shot for every liverspot on your wretched body

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    And kobe bricking err shot for every liverspot on your wretched body
    You'll get those spots as well.

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    Veteran Ignignokt's Avatar
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    You'll get those spots as well.
    My star wont dedicate a brick for each spot though.

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    Every game is game 1 Seventyniner's Avatar
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    I wonder if the numbers would be any different if NBA scorers were more strict with assists as in Europe.

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    2010's: This should be known as the advanced age of offensive sophistication.

    The game is now based on passing, where ball movement and teamwork is causing defensive breakdowns, and blessing us, the viewers, with the purest form of basketball.

    The offense is so sophisticated, and the passes are so effective, that they don't even show up in the box scores!

    In 2014, the average NBA team have 1804 assists leading to 3093 FG, or in other words, 58% of the FGs are assisted. The top team had 2041 assists on 3061 FGs, that's 66.7% of the field goals assisted.

    Looking back, in 2004, those numbers are 1747/2871/60.8% for an average team, and 2152/3103 for 69.4%

    1994, known as the worst year of the ISO ball era, 2000/3225/62% and 2179/3207/67.9 respectively

    Run and gun 1984? 2148/3566/60.2% and 2192/3344/65.6%

    Such sophistication.
    Well, using assists/made field goals % can have different meanings. For example, a high % may just mean that individually, the league is weak, people cant finish isolation plays and only can make open shots when their teammates passed them the ball.

    Also, your stats look weird. Why does the top team in each era has less made field goals than the avg nba team?

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    you start by saing that the passes don't even enter the boxscore and then ramble about how there is no difference in the assist column.. i mean ...

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    Well, using assists/made field goals % can have different meanings. For example, a high % may just mean that individually, the league is weak, people cant finish isolation plays and only can make open shots when their teammates passed them the ball.

    Also, your stats look weird. Why does the top team in each era has less made field goals than the avg nba team?
    That is not possible.

    We have already established the fact that 90s was nothing but ISO ball and the 10s was beautiful passing and teamwork. So the league being weak and must pass to score is counter to this established fact.

    Top team means top assists to FGM ratio because that's what we are talking about.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    you start by saing that the passes don't even enter the boxscore and then ramble about how there is no difference in the assist column.. i mean ...
    Did I say passes don't enter the box score?

    Assists happened by not passing?

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    Did I say passes don't enter the box score?

    Assists happened by not passing?
    "The offense is so sophisticated, and the passes are so effective, that they don't even show up in the box scores!"

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    TheDrewShow is salty lefty's Avatar
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    There is more passing today because :

    - zone D
    - a lot more players who are not very skilled, so they are forced to pass the ball because hot potatoe

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    I agree an evolution has happened. The game when played through passing, screens and picks is a lot more fluid and when all 5 players are threats (not in the traditional, they can all break a dude down one on one) but through spacing and specializing. This is what the Spurs have been able to do when their traditional one on one threats Duncan, Manu and Parker have regressed due to mileage and wear and tear. I swear, last year's Spurs run as a bball fan was the best I've seen in a long time.
    Best passing since mid 80s Lakers and Celts 2011 Mavs underrated as a great passing team but not quite on that level

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    Best passing since mid 80s Lakers and Celts 2011 Mavs underrated as a great passing team but not quite on that level
    More than on offense, the 2011 Mavs zoned teams to death. Chandler played at an extremely high level that year. And Dirk was Dirk. I still think the Heat should've won that series though. They let game 2 slip away after up big in the 4th.

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    Kawhiiii
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    That is not possible.

    We have already established the fact that 90s was nothing but ISO ball and the 10s was beautiful passing and teamwork. So the league being weak and must pass to score is counter to this established fact.

    Top team means top assists to FGM ratio because that's what we are talking about.
    How is that a counter? Players in the past can iso better, so they made more field goals in isolation plays.
    Also, I was talkin purely on your denominator. The field goals made per season for top teams are consistently less than those by the average team. Does that mean top nba teams score less than the average?

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    "The offense is so sophisticated, and the passes are so effective, that they don't even show up in the box scores!"
    I guess now you get OP point

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