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    Ur a fkn wanker Venti Quattro's Avatar
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    Btw, this thread sounds like "Would Jim have won if Pop was not his coach".

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    Btw, this thread sounds like "Would Jim have won if Pop was not his coach".
    The anwser is no. stained olympic bronze medal with stacked team and consequent exile from international basketball withstanding.

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    Are we really going to debate this again? He shows up when it matters
    Exhibit A of dismissing the quality of teammates when it is convenient. Right on cue.

    Have you seen Tmacs playoff production? It's not that he didn't show up and Kobe did, it's that Kobe had Shaq and Tmac had who in Orlando? Yet from that point forward Kobe was known as a champion and Tmac a loser. As if they were in even remotely similar situations.

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    Jim without 4 hall of fame players and coach is ranked under Minnesota's Kevin Garnett.

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    Does Kobe 'show up when it counts' if he's thrown into that situation in Orlando? Or do we see something similar to the post-Shaq, pre-MVPau days? Hmmm.

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    Does Kobe 'show up when it counts' if he's thrown into that situation in Orlando? Or do we see something similar to the post-Shaq, pre-MVPau days? Hmmm.
    You got no room. Your Rodman quit square in the middle of the gd playoffs, had a in' sit in because Robinson was trying to convert his black ass in the locker room.

    Ya in' nervy bas , you.

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    DMC is an old timer with ty takes. Always has been. Why don't you bump your Stephen Curry thread, pat yourself in the back for being a stupid and useless got.

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    DMC is an old timer with ty takes. Always has been. Why don't you bump your Stephen Curry thread, pat yourself in the back for being a stupid and useless got.
    Nothin' worse than a miserable old er.

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    "And if we're going to use today's CBA rules now, then market size is pretty irrelevant." -Your Stupid Ass

    You gots clam up because I expose your stupidity on the regular and you know your ty 4chan memes don't move me.


    Let's see. First of all, You brought up a moronic scenario of Gasol going to a small market team when he was originally traded, not a matter of choice as you eloquently suggested.


    The small market-large market difference is irrelevant, the modifications are all there in front of you with higher luxury taxes, increased revenue sharing to name a few which made it difficult for wealthier teams to spend. OKC, San Antonio, Cleveland, Pacers, Memphis are all relatively small but are surpassing the bigger market.


    It's no surprise the biggest names today also plays for smaller markets with a good amount of veteran players signing for less in these markets bypassing the old and antiquated notion of NBA "dominated by big stars in big markets."


    The influence of bigger markets are shrinking. George is Indy, KD/westbrook in OKC, Lebron in Cleveland, Zach and Marc are still with Memphis The traditional powerhouse teams are hurting and it's by design. They simply cannot outspend any other teams anymore clearly helping to create a better compe ive balance across the league

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    Let's see. First of all, You brought up a moronic scenario of Gasol going to a small market team when he was originally traded, not a matter of choice as you eloquently suggested.


    The small market-large market difference is irrelevant, the modifications are all there in front of you with higher luxury taxes, increased revenue sharing to name a few which made it difficult for wealthier teams to spend. OKC, San Antonio, Cleveland, Pacers, Memphis are all relatively small but are surpassing the bigger market.


    It's no surprise the biggest names today also plays for smaller markets with a good amount of veteran players signing for less in these markets bypassing the old and antiquated notion of NBA "dominated by big stars in big markets."


    The influence of bigger markets are shrinking. George is Indy, KD/westbrook in OKC, Lebron in Cleveland, Zach and Marc are still with Memphis The traditional powerhouse teams are hurting and it's by design. They simply cannot outspend any other teams anymore clearly helping to create a better compe ive balance across the league
    Jesus christ. Nobody is saying good players dont end up in small markets, obviously they do--mostly through the draft.

    But all other things being equal (decent management, coaching, etc) surrounding those good players with the right talent in a small market is a lot tougher than a place like LA. If you can't see that you're a moron.

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    surrounding those good players with the right talent in a small market is a lot tougher than a place like LA. If you can't see that you're a moron.
    How stupid can you be? The smaller market teams today are doing exactly that.

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    How stupid can you be? The smaller market teams today are doing exactly that.
    OKC was built through the draft. LeBron's greatness built Cleveland from the ground up, five years ago the most notable player lining up to play in Cleveland was Mo Williams. Before that noone wanted any part of that hole. Duncan's greatness built San Antonio's reputation and even then they still struggles to attract non-international players. Memphis doesn't even have a true superstar, just a collection of good, gritty players that play the right way.

    Those unique situations has nothing to do with Cleveland/San Antonio/OKC being on an even playing field with Los Angeles you moron.

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    I refuse to talk basketball to someone who watches dirty she male movies in their spare time. NO offense.

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    I refuse to talk basketball to someone who watches dirty she male movies in their spare time. NO offense.
    You picked a good time to eject, got.

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    OKC was built through the draft. LeBron's greatness built Cleveland from the ground up, five years ago the most notable player lining up to play in Cleveland was Mo Williams.
    Lebron went back to Cleveland. Kevin Love was another notable player that lined up and asked for Cleveland fwiw.

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    Coming from someone who enjoys the pleasure of chicks with s

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    Lebron went back to Cleveland. Kevin Love was another notable player that lined up and asked for Cleveland fwiw.
    Because it's his hometown. And Love followed him bc LeBron is a once in a generation player.

    Has nothing to do with Cleveland magically gaining the ability to attract players the way a place like LA can.

    Coming from someone who enjoys the pleasure of chicks with s
    Why try to talk bball if youre going to eject and turn to insults as soon as the going gets tough? Little punk ass .

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    Good work tbh

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    when was the last time a coveted free agent chose to go to Minnesota, Milwaukee, Toronto, Charlotte, Philadelphia, Indiana, Utah, Denver, San Antonio, Memphis...

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    Let's see. First of all, You brought up a moronic scenario of Gasol going to a small market team when he was originally traded, not a matter of choice as you eloquently suggested.
    Small market teams don't get deals like that. Shaq came of his own free will as did Howard and Nash, Karl Malone and Gary Payton.
    You pretending the Lakers haven't had the lion's share of NBA talent over Kobe's career.
    Also pretending to not understand the difference between market size and player income level (not just NBA salary)
    Going full on re to semen shield your broken hero.


    The small market-large market difference is irrelevant, the modifications are all there in front of you with higher luxury taxes, increased revenue sharing to name a few which made it difficult for wealthier teams to spend. OKC, San Antonio, Cleveland, Pacers, Memphis are all relatively small but are surpassing the bigger market.
    This has absolutely nothing to do with market size.

    Lebron won't get the media attention in Cleveland that he would have gotten in NY except for the fact that it was a homecoming theme. There's a reason KG and Ray Allen didn't team up in Minnesota, or why Lebron didn't decide to go to New Orleans and why it wasn't even on his radar. There's a reason why everyone looks at NY, Chicago, Boston and LA. Superstars don't go to small markets as free agents. Kobe knows this, knew this, which is why he refused to play in Charlotte. It's not about what the team can afford.
    It's no surprise the biggest names today also plays for smaller markets with a good amount of veteran players signing for less in these markets bypassing the old and antiquated notion of NBA "dominated by big stars in big markets."
    Yeah, Carmelo Anthony left a small market to get to NY. Lebron left Cleveland to get to Miami and only returned for a 2 year stint as a media gesture. KG and Ray Allen left their respective holes to play in Boston alongside Paul Pierce. Howard left Orlando to play in LA. Chris Paul left New Orleans to play in LA, would have gone to the Lakers had Stern not nixed the deal. James Harden left the Thunder to play in Houston. In fact, I'm trying to think of what biggest names are playing in small markets that weren't drafted there.
    The influence of bigger markets are shrinking. George is Indy, KD/westbrook in OKC, Lebron in Cleveland, Zach and Marc are still with Memphis The traditional powerhouse teams are hurting and it's by design. They simply cannot outspend any other teams anymore clearly helping to create a better compe ive balance across the league
    KD and RW were drafted by those teams. LOL Marc and Zach...

    The traditional powerhouse teams...

    NY has Melo, Amare, had Tyson Chandler and Jason Kidd. Yeah, ty cast there. They suck because Kidd was done and TC was the only team player in the group.

    LA had Kobe, Nash, Howard, Gasol and Artest just recently... another D league group. They sucked because Kobe is on the team.

    After the big 3 split, Boston hasn't done much, not as popular a place as LA.

    Bulls got Pau Gasol, D-Rose and Noah. They don't suck because they have a white coach and MVPau. Chicago hasn't been as popular a location but still in consideration over smaller markets not labeled as "birthplace" to the free agent.

    What superstars are in small markets as a result of free agency choices?

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    Lebron went back to Cleveland. Kevin Love was another notable player that lined up and asked for Cleveland fwiw.
    Do you think Kevin Love would go to Cleveland had Lebron stayed in LA? You have basically 3 superstars in Cleveland now, and it's because Lebron chose to be there because that's where he was BORN.

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