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  1. #176
    January Championship Banner? td4mvp21's Avatar
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    The Spurs don't need two superstars anyway, they have the guys in the stripes w/whistles and the man in charge (stern)on their side.

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    Kobe attempts the most field goals in the NBA, therefore making the most field goals in the game, therefore APPEARING to be the best player. If Matt Bonner attempted as many shots as Kobe, he'd make them too.


    By the way I hate Kobe and Im a Spurs fan!

  3. #178
    BOOM!!!, Baby! Reggie Miller's Avatar
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    Pfffff....... Not even close to Kobe, Nique and VC in game dunks...
    If you had seen Dr. J play in person, you wouldn't say that. He wasn't as flashy as later players, but he more or less invented the idea of the dunk as an offensive weapon, as opposed to a Harlem Globetrotters' routine. When he was younger, Dr. J could take off from near the top of the key and dunk over/thorugh an entire opposing team. I've never seen the three players you list even attempt something like that.

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    I guess you never seen Kobe, Nique, or VC play as well....each of them have dunked on numerous players taking off from great distances. Still, I love Dr. J.....

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    reppin the 16th letter! Fillmoe's Avatar
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    greatest in the game right now, and im a kings fan. so theres no bias

  6. #181
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    I guess you never seen Kobe, Nique, or VC play as well....each of them have dunked on numerous players taking off from great distances. Still, I love Dr. J.....
    I've never seen anyone do it regularly from as far as Dr. J could. I've never seen any of those guys take off from past the free-throw line in a game situation. (I'm not arguing they never did; I'm saying they didn't do it regularly enough that I recall.)

    In general, I have a knee-jerk reaction to anyone saying Vince Carter could do anything better than Dr. J. Julius Erving was the Michael Jordan of my youth, and he is largely forgotten today. It makes me sad.

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    I'm not hatin' RM....I love Dr. J...my favourite player next to Magic for quite some time.

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    Drive for Five! ambchang's Avatar
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    I've never seen anyone do it regularly from as far as Dr. J could. I've never seen any of those guys take off from past the free-throw line in a game situation. (I'm not arguing they never did; I'm saying they didn't do it regularly enough that I recall.)

    In general, I have a knee-jerk reaction to anyone saying Vince Carter could do anything better than Dr. J. Julius Erving was the Michael Jordan of my youth, and he is largely forgotten today. It makes me sad.
    With videos like this, it would be extrememly hard to forget the Dr.!

    But with dunks like these, it's really hard to argue anybody being better than Carter.
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=3zIULG3Ib...elated&search=
    http://youtube.com/watch?v=SzXXWVqpw...elated&search=
    I mean, how many people can jump over a person 7'2"? How many people can do an alleyoop windmill? And the guy does it all the time.

    Screw this, let's decide for yourself.

    Rainman:http://youtube.com/watch?v=gtwbI0_bU6o
    Nique: http://youtube.com/watch?v=EgIpQQ2eLaI (His #1 is my favourite dunk of all time. Spin through two defenders, double-pumped, turned side-ways and dunked on 7'1" Tree Rollins right in the face.)
    The Glide: http://youtube.com/watch?v=SvjJA93Xy9Y

  9. #184
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    No, I didn't see Nique, VC or Kobe playing live, but I have something so called TV...
    And, I love Dr.J not as much as MJ, but I'll always pick Kobe or VC over both of them when we are talking 'bout dunking in game.
    And 'cradle' on Cooper is better than Kobe over Dwight? On Yao? On Knicks (Spree)? On Nuggets? C'mon man...
    And yes, The Glide had jump range better than Dr.J. ... like MJ...

  10. #185
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    Interesting thread and discussion about Kobe's perceived greatness before the advanced stats era really took hold.

    And who would've thought back then, when Kobe was scoring 81 points and 62 in 3 quarters, that his actual empirical impact was on the level of Baron Davis
    Last edited by midnightpulp; 12-03-2014 at 02:00 PM.

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    Interesting thread and discussion about Kobe's perceived greatness before the advanced stats era really took hold.

    And would've thought back then, when Kobe was scoring 81 points and 62 in 3 quarters, that his actual empirical impact was on the level of Baron Davis
    No one cares about your #'s.

  12. #187
    SeaGOAT midnightpulp's Avatar
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    No one cares about your #'s.
    GMs do.

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    Wrecks and Effects RsxPiimp's Avatar
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    My favorite Vujacic story is from the 06 playoffs when his idea of "defending" Nash was to try and body him up aggressively, only to get taken off the dribble repeatedly. Finally Nash had to pull him aside and ask "Dude, just some friendly advice, but what the are you doing?"

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    Surely Shaq didn't say that.

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