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    I'm not suggesting anything. Don't get your panties in a bunch.

    Was he 150 feet away when fatally shot?

    Just checking.
    No, he was less than 10 feet from the shooter when he received the fatal shot to the top of his head. This is based on the location of the body and the location of the s casings.

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    So he pursued Brown that 150 feet?

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    cenk has been spot on lately. props to dude for calling out out the bull

    People are en led to their own opinions but, not their own set of facts. Both videos are fact-challenged.

    Zimmerman didn't chase Martin down. He attempted to follow him and, when he lost sight of him and was on his way back to his vehicle, he was attacked.

    Wilson didn't shoot Brown because he feared a black man. If that were the case, why did he stop in the first place? No, Wilson shot Brown because Brown had assaulted him once, almost gaining control of this service weapon, and was, again, charging at him to presumably assault him again and, yes, Officer Wilson, who was about 90lbs lighter than Brown and just 1" taller, feared that he would lose his life if Brown reached him and assaulted him again.

    I'm not sure what Emmett Till has to do with any of this.


    Prosecutors are not required to bring to a Grand Jury cases they do not believe warrant indictment. Prosecutor McCullough has been very up front about why he brought the case to the Grand Jury, at all. It wasn't because he thought a crime had been committed by the officer (he didn't); it was because of the controversy and threats to public peace that were being threatened if he didn't. So, he did. Yes, a prosecutor can get a ham sandwich indicted, if he chooses; but, McCullough didn't want to indict this ham sandwich.

    He didn't stand in the way of indictment -- presenting every shred of evidence he had ac ulated on the case and presenting the Grand Jury with the five indictments that were available to them, under the cir stances. He didn't keep anything from the Grand Jury but, suggesting he is somehow to blame when he, himself, did not believe a crime had been committed is silly. Under normal cir stances, he wouldn't have been obligated to present anything to the Grand Jury.

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    So he pursued Brown that 150 feet?
    No, at some point, Brown turned around and started running back at Officer Wilson.

    According to witness testimony and corroborating forensic evidence, at the scene; Officer Wilson began pursuing Brown and had made it about 150 from his patrol vehicle when Brown stopped (at about 170 feet from the patrol vehicle), turned around, and began charging back at Officer Wilson. After Brown began charging at him, Officer Wilson yelled for him to stop and when he didn't, he opened fire, taking several shots at Brown (some of which hit him and some of which did not). Brown stopped momentarily and Officer Wilson stopped shooting. Brown resumed his charge and Wilson, backpedaling, resumed firing and yelling for him to stop. From the last estimated shooting position (based on the location of the expelled casings) to Brown's body was approximately 10 feet.

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    No, at some point, Brown turned around and started running back at Officer Wilson.

    According to witness testimony and corroborating forensic evidence, at the scene; Officer Wilson began pursuing Brown and had made it about 150 from his patrol vehicle when Brown stopped (at about 170 feet from the patrol vehicle), turned around, and began charging back at Officer Wilson. After Brown began charging at him, Officer Wilson yelled for him to stop and when he didn't, he opened fire, taking several shots at Brown (some of which hit him and some of which did not). Brown stopped momentarily and Officer Wilson stopped shooting. Brown resumed his charge and Wilson, backpedaling, resumed firing and yelling for him to stop. From the last estimated shooting position (based on the location of the expelled casings) to Brown's body was approximately 10 feet.
    So you just confirmed that Wilson pursued Brown that 150 feet.

    Thanks.

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    So you just confirmed that Wilson pursued Brown that 150 feet.

    Thanks.
    I'm sorry, I misunderstood your trap (I thought you were trying to suggest he shot Brown from 150 feet away). Yeah, he pursued Brown. What's your point? I don't think there's been any disagreement that Wilson exited his patrol vehicle and gave chase.

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    I'm sorry, I misunderstood your trap (I thought you were trying to suggest he shot Brown from 150 feet away). Yeah, he pursued Brown. What's your point? I don't think there's been any disagreement that Wilson exited his patrol vehicle and gave chase.
    The point is he pursued Brown 150 feet.

    Thanks again.

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    So you just confirmed that Wilson pursued Brown that 150 feet.

    Thanks.
    Why wouldn't a police officer pursue a suspected felon for at least 150 feet?

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    Why wouldn't a police officer pursue a suspected felon for at least 150 feet?
    I didn't say he wouldn't.

    Thanks for the comment.

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    The point is he pursued Brown 150 feet.

    Thanks again.
    Why is that relevant? I didn't think it was a point of contention.

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    Why is that relevant? I didn't think it was a point of contention.
    Is it not relevant?

    Wow.

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    Is it not relevant?

    Wow.
    It is not relevant.

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    It is not relevant.
    Why not?

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    Is it not relevant?

    Wow.
    I didn't say it wasn't relevant, I'm asking why your focus on it is relevant. I didn't think there was any disagreement over where Brown and Wilson were when he was shot.

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    I didn't say it wasn't relevant, I'm asking why your focus on it is relevant. I didn't think there was any disagreement over where Brown and Wilson were when he was shot.
    So you think it's relevant.

    Thanks.

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    So you think it's relevant.

    Thanks.
    So, explain to me why this point is so important.

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    So, explain to me why this point is so important.
    I didn't say it was so important.

    But you agree it's relevant, so cool.

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    I didn't say it was so important.

    But you agree it's relevant, so cool.
    Okay.

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    It's not relevant actually, Chumpdumper is just a sociopathic moron who doesn't give a two ways about the case, only to earn a digital Spurstalk Debate Ribbon. dude is a 40 yr old NEET and quite pathetic.

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    It's not relevant actually
    Why not?

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    It actually is, but your original point was that Brown was shot from 150 ft. That is not factual.

    But not like you give a about the actual outcome. You're quite ignorant of the facts as evidenced by responding to Yoni's assertion that Brown was a threat, in which you said "from 150 Ft".

    Now that you been shown to be a moron, and ignorant of the fact, you chose to rely on the fact that the "pursuit" was 150 ft.

    What you haven't discredited was the fact of the scuffle happening in the vehicle followed by the pursuit. The autopsy evidence proves Wilson's testimony, and cop's jobs are to chase violent criminals and apprehend them.

    Until you address the actual facts, come at me.

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    Why did you say it wasn't?
    but your original point was that Brown was shot from 150 ft. That is not factual.
    I was asking a question. Which was answered. Not stating a fact.

    Thanks for your continued interest in me.

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    Why did you say it wasn't?I was asking a question. Which was answered. Not stating a fact.

    Thanks for your continued interest in me.
    What was your interest in asking the question?

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    Why did you say it wasn't?
    I said, that you don't actually give two s. That's different from saying the material facts are not relevant.

    RIF

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    What was your interest in asking the question?
    Just wondering.

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