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http://sports.yahoo.com/news/histori...637-ncaaf.html

Historically black school, white coach ... how Alcorn State returned to its roots (with a twist) to build a winner

[Avante]

There is some school in the SWAC with another white QB, yep, that started with Grambling and Jim Gregory, who went to nearby Corcoran HS, I worked with one of his linemen. The movie "White Tiger" with Bruce Jenner was about that.

Alcorn had Steve McNair, Donald Driver and a world record 100 guy Wilie McGee who played for the Chargers.

Once upon a time the SWAC/MEAC had more pro players than a lot of the big conferences. Both Jerry Rice MVS and Walter Payton Jackson St were out of the SWAC.

An All Time HBCU team would be outstanding.

Hall of Famers

Willie Davis Grambling
Bob Hayes FAMU
John Stallworth Alabama A&M
Deacon Jones South Carolina State
Jerry Rice MVS
Leroy Kelly Morgan St
Buck Buchanon Grambling
Charlie Joiner Grambling
Walter Payton Jackson St
Willie Brown Grambling
Aeneas Wiliams Southern U
Mel Blount Southern U
Lem Barney Jackson St

Notable HBCUers

JD Smith NCA&T ....first HBCUer to have a 1000 yard NFL season, Niners
Paul "Tank" Younger Grambling....first SWAC athlete to play in the NFL
Warren Wells TSU....the roots to that Raider obsession with speed
Clem Daneils Prarie View....first Raider to have a 1000 yard season
Otis Taylor Prairie View....broke SB IV wide open, first of the big fast receivers (QB in college)
Harold Carmichael Southern U
Ken Burrough TSU....great speed receiver
Mack "The Truck" Lee Hil Southern U...most powerful running back I've ever seen.
Doug Williams Grambling....first black QB to win the SB
Willie Galimore FAMU...incredible broken field runner
Emerson Boozer Maryland ES....if not for Matt Snell
Willie Ellison TSU....1000 yard rusher for the Rams

[AlexJones]

There is some school in the SWAC with another white QB, yep, that started with Grambling and Jim Gregory, who went to nearby Corcoran HS, I worked with one of his linemen. The movie "White Tiger" with Bruce Jenner was about that.

Alcorn had Steve McNair, Donald Driver and a world record 100 guy Wilie McGee who played for the Chargers.

Once upon a time the SWAC/MEAC had more pro players than a lot of the big conferences. Both Jerry Rice MVS and Walter Payton Jackson St were out of the SWAC.

An All Time HBCU team would be outstanding.

Hall of Famers

Willie Davis Grambling
Bob Hayes FAMU
John Stallworth Alabama A&M
Deacon Jones South Carolina State
Jerry Rice MVS
Leroy Kelly Morgan St
Buck Buchanon Grambling
Charlie Joiner Grambling
Walter Payton Jackson St
Willie Brown Grambling
Aeneas Wiliams Southern U
Mel Blount Southern U
Lem Barney Jackson St

Notable HBCUers

JD Smith NCA&T ....first HBCUer to have a 1000 yard NFL season, Niners
Paul "Tank" Younger Grambling....first SWAC athlete to play in the NFL
Warren Wells TSU....the roots to that Raider obsession with speed
Clem Daneils Prarie View....first Raider to have a 1000 yard season
Otis Taylor Prairie View....broke SB IV wide open, first of the big fast receivers (QB in college)
Harold Carmichael Southern U
Ken Burrough TSU....great speed receiver
Mack "The Truck" Lee Hil Southern U...most powerful running back I've ever seen.
Doug Williams Grambling....first black QB to win the SB
Willie Galimore FAMU...incredible broken field runner
Emerson Boozer Maryland ES....if not for Matt Snell
Willie Ellison TSU....1000 yard rusher for the Rams

[Avante]

The thread had over 65 views with nobody responding, so why not learn a little about the HBCU? One of my pet interests being a track fan, the HBCU a long history of great track athletes.

Dude, chill, you're way too uptight, ok?

[Aztecfan03]

knew this thread would attract him.

[Avante]

knew this thread would attract him.

Ever heard of Big Ben Stevenson out of Tuskegee? Extremely interesting topic, the HBCU.


Ben "Big Ben" Stevenson

Details

• Position: Halfback
• School: Tuskegee
• High School: Liberty, MO (Garrison HS), Tuskegee, AL (Tuskegee Normal Industrial Ins ute)
• Years: 1923-1930
• Inducted: 2003
• Place of Birth: Smith Mills, MO
• Date of Birth: Mar 20, 1906
• Place of Death: Houston, TX
• Date of Death: Nov 14, 1969
• Jersey Number: 48
• Height: 6-2
• Weight: 210

Member Biography

"Big Ben" was discovered one day while working on a Kansas farm. Coach Cleve Abbott persuaded Stevenson to join him at Tuskegee that fall. His first years at Tuskegee were spent as a prep-schooler. This allowed Stevenson to play eight seasons for the Golden Tigers, a span where he suffered only two defeats. Ben combined speed (9.8 100-yard dash), strength and durability. He had the ability to out-run, over-power or elude tacklers. In his first season he scored on a combination of long runs and drop kicks. He also played defensive back, earning a reputation as one of the top pass thieves in the conference. The Tigers went 9-0 and claimed the first of six national championships. The following year they again were undefeated. In 1926, le aspirations came down to a game against Lincoln, where Stevenson came back from an injury to score all of his team's points in a 20-16 victory. Over his seven-year career, he scored 42 touchdowns on runs of 50 yards or more, and was named to seven consecutive Black College All-America teams. He was named to numerous Negro all-time All-America teams and was voted as the game's greatest all-around player. While at Tuskegee he studied under George Washington Carver, earning a Bachelors and later a Masters degree before beginning a coaching career on the collegiate and high school levels.

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A 6-2 210 pound back with close to world record 100 speed (9.5) in the 30's, damn!!!!!!!!!

[spurraider21]

Hey Avante, thats super interesting. Have you heard of George Washington Carver?



Synopsis

George Washington Carver was born into slavery in Diamond, Missouri, around 1864. The exact year and date of his birth are unknown. Carver went on to become one of the most prominent scientists and inventors of his time, as well as a teacher at the Tuskegee Ins ute. Carver devised over 100 products using one of these crops—the peanut—including dyes, plastics and gasoline. He died in 1943.
Early Years

Botanist and inventor George Washington Carver was one of many children born to Mary and Giles, an enslaved couple owned by Moses Carver. He was born during the Civil War years, most likely in 1864. A week after his birth, George was kidnapped along with his sister and mother from the Carver farm by raiders from the neighboring state of Arkansas. The three were sold in Kentucky, and among them only the infant George was located by an agent of Moses Carver and returned to Missouri.
The conclusion of the Civil War in 1865 brought the end of slavery in Missouri. Moses Carver and his wife, Susan, decided to keep George and his brother James at their home after that time, raising and educating the two boys. Susan Carver taught George to read and write, since no local school would accept black students at the time.
The search for knowledge would remain a driving force for the rest of George's life. As a young man, he left the Carver home to travel to a school for black children 10 miles away. It was at this point that the boy, who had always identified himself as "Carver's George" first came to be known as "George Carver." Carver attended a series of schools before receiving his diploma at Minneapolis High School in Minneapolis, Kansas.
Accepted to Highland College in Highland, Kansas, Carver was denied admittance once college administrators learned of his race. Instead of attending classes, he homesteaded a claim, where he conducted biological experiments and compiled a geological collection. While interested in science, Carver was also interested in the arts. In 1890, he began studying art and music at Simpson College in Iowa, developing his painting and drawing skills through sketches of botanical samples. His obvious ap ude for drawing the natural world prompted a teacher to suggest that Carver enroll in the botany program at the Iowa State Agricultural College.
Carver moved to Ames and began his botanical studies the following year as the first black student at Iowa State. Carver excelled in his studies. Upon completion of his Bachelor of Science degree, Carver's professors Joseph Budd and Louis Pammel persuaded him to stay on for a master's degree. His graduate studies included intensive work in plant pathology at the Iowa Experiment Station. In these years, Carver established his reputation as a brilliant botanist and began the work that he would pursue for the remainder of his career.

Tuskegee Ins ute

After graduating from Iowa State, Carver embarked on a career of teaching and research. Booker T. Washington, the principal of the African-American Tuskegee Ins ute, hired Carver to run the school's agricultural department in 1896. Washington lured the promising young botanist to the ins ute with a hefty salary and the promise of two rooms on campus, while most faculty members lived with a roommate. Carver's special status stemmed from his accomplishments and reputation, as well as his degree from a prominent ins ution not normally open to black students.
Tuskegee's agricultural department achieved national renown under Carver's leadership, with a curriculum and a faculty that he helped to shape. Areas of research and training included methods of crop rotation and the development of alternative cash crops for farmers in areas heavily planted with cotton. This work helped struggling sharecroppers in the South, many of them former slaves now faced with necessary cultivation under harsh conditions, including the devastation of the boll weevil in 1892. The development of new crops and diversification of crop use helped to stabilize the livelihoods of these people who had backgrounds not unlike Carver's own.
The education of African-American students at Tuskegee contributed directly to the effort of economic stabilization among blacks. In addition to formal education in a traditional classroom setting, Carver pioneered a mobile classroom to bring his lessons to farmers. The classroom was known as a "Jesup wagon," after New York financier and Tuskegee donor Morris Ketchum Jesup.
Rise to Prominence

Carver's work at Tuskegee included groundbreaking research on plant biology that brought him to national prominence. Many of these early experiments focused on the development of new uses for crops such as peanuts, sweet potatoes, soybeans and pecans. The hundreds of products he invented included plastics, paints, dyes and even a kind of gasoline. In 1920, Carver delivered a speech before the Peanut Growers Association, attesting to the wide potential of peanuts. The following year, he testified before Congress in support of a tariff on imported peanuts. With the help of Carver's testimony, the proponents of the tariff were able to ins ute it in 1922.
Carver's prominence as a scientific expert made him one of the most famous African-Americans of his time, and one of the best-known African-American intellectuals up to that point. By the time of his testimony, however, Carver had already achieved international fame in political and professional circles. President Theodore Roosevelt admired his work and sought his advice on agricultural matters in the United States. Carver was also recognized abroad for his scientific expertise. In 1916, he was made a member of the British Royal Society of Arts—a rare honor for an American. Carver also advised Indian leader Mahatma Gandhi on matters of agriculture and nutrition.
Carver used his celebrity to promote scientific causes for the remainder of his life. He wrote a syndicated newspaper column and toured the nation, speaking on the importance of agricultural innovation, the achievements and example of Tuskegee, and the possibilities for racial harmony in the United States. From 1923 to 1933, Carver toured white Southern colleges for the Commission on Interracial Cooperation.
The politics of accommodation championed by both George Washington Carver and Booker T. Washington were anathema to activists who sought more radical change. Despite his involvement with government-funded scientific research and programs, Carver largely remained outside of the political sphere, and declined to criticize prevailing social norms outright. Nonetheless, Carver's scholarship and research contributed to improved quality of life for many farming families, and made Carver an icon for African-Americans and Anglo-Americans alike.
George Washington Carver died on January 5, 1943, at the age of 78 after falling down the stairs at his home. He was buried next to Booker T. Washington on the Tuskegee grounds. Carver's epitaph reads: "He could have added fortune to fame, but caring for neither, he found happiness and honor in being helpful to the world."
Legacy

Carver's iconic status remained after his death, in part due to steps that Carver and others took during his lifetime to establish his legacy. Carver, who had lived a frugal life, used his savings to establish a museum devoted to his work, including some of his own paintings and drawings. In December 1947, a fire broke out in the museum, destroying much of the collection. One of the surviving works by Carver is a painting of a yucca and a cactus, displayed at the Chicago World's Columbian Exposition of 1893. In addition to the museum, Carver also established the George Washington Carver Foundation at Tuskegee, with the aim of supporting future agricultural research.
A project to erect a national monument in Carver's honor also began before his death. Harry S. Truman, then a senator from Missouri, sponsored a bill in favor of a monument during World War II. Supporters of the bill argued that the wartime expenditure was warranted because the monument would promote patriotic fervor among African-Americans and encourage them to enlist in the military. The bill passed unanimously in both houses.
In 1943, President Franklin D. Roosevelt dedicated $30,000 for the monument west of Diamond, Missouri—the site of the plantation where Carver lived as a child. This was the first national monument dedicated to an African-American. The 210-acre complex includes a statue of Carver as well as a nature trail, museum and cemetery.
Carver appeared on U.S. commemorative postal stamps in 1948 and 1998, as well as a commemorative half dollar coin minted between 1951 and 1954. Numerous schools bear his name, as do two United States military vessels. In 2005, the Missouri Botanical Garden in St. Louis opened a George Washington Carver garden, which includes a life-size statue of the garden's famous namesake. These honors attest to George Washington Carver's enduring legacy as an icon of African-American achievement, and of American ingenuity more broadly. Carver's life has come to symbolize the transformative potential of education, even for those born into the most unfortunate and difficult of cir stances.

[Avante]

George Washington Carver was a 26 foot long jumper while at Morgan State in the early 40's, if not for the war and no Olympics he would have been the favorite, he was also a 9.5 sprinter and a great wide receiver. Still considered the best all around athlete to ever come out of Morgan State, he was a star point guard also

[AlexJones]

Ever heard of Big Ben Stevenson out of Tuskegee? Extremely interesting topic, the HBCU.


Ben "Big Ben" Stevenson

Details

• Position: Halfback
• School: Tuskegee
• High School: Liberty, MO (Garrison HS), Tuskegee, AL (Tuskegee Normal Industrial Ins ute)
• Years: 1923-1930
• Inducted: 2003
• Place of Birth: Smith Mills, MO
• Date of Birth: Mar 20, 1906
• Place of Death: Houston, TX
• Date of Death: Nov 14, 1969
• Jersey Number: 48
• Height: 6-2
• Weight: 210

Member Biography

"Big Ben" was discovered one day while working on a Kansas farm. Coach Cleve Abbott persuaded Stevenson to join him at Tuskegee that fall. His first years at Tuskegee were spent as a prep-schooler. This allowed Stevenson to play eight seasons for the Golden Tigers, a span where he suffered only two defeats. Ben combined speed (9.8 100-yard dash), strength and durability. He had the ability to out-run, over-power or elude tacklers. In his first season he scored on a combination of long runs and drop kicks. He also played defensive back, earning a reputation as one of the top pass thieves in the conference. The Tigers went 9-0 and claimed the first of six national championships. The following year they again were undefeated. In 1926, le aspirations came down to a game against Lincoln, where Stevenson came back from an injury to score all of his team's points in a 20-16 victory. Over his seven-year career, he scored 42 touchdowns on runs of 50 yards or more, and was named to seven consecutive Black College All-America teams. He was named to numerous Negro all-time All-America teams and was voted as the game's greatest all-around player. While at Tuskegee he studied under George Washington Carver, earning a Bachelors and later a Masters degree before beginning a coaching career on the collegiate and high school levels.

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A 6-2 210 pound back with close to world record 100 speed (9.5) in the 30's, damn!!!!!!!!!

[Malik Hairston]

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[AlexJones]

Avante, why is your name black but not bolded (like Kori Ellis, timvp, Bruno).. do you have mod powers?

[Avante]

Avante, why is your name black but not bolded (like Kori Ellis, timvp, Bruno).. do you have mod powers?

I do possess super powers just not mod powers.