The Ferguson Indictment (on Justice)

[Yonivore]

What other option did Wilson have after Brown punched him, tried to disarm him, and charged him?

I suppose he could have produced a red cape and pretended he was at a bull fight.

[ChumpDumper]

no. i'm sure he was referring to inapplicable laws and regulations.

I made the distinction myself.

[TheSanityAnnex]

The transcripts read like a defense examination without cross.

What did you think of the witness testimony transcripts?

[boutons_deux]

What did you think of the witness testimony transcripts?

lots of ambiguity, and we know Wilson was coached for weeks and was ing lying ( demon! grunting, insane, terrifying (unarmed) animal! ), is what police and police orgs do, The Blue Wall. Wilson trained to do his job, killin' n!gg@s.

If Brown had been white, he'd be alive.

[Yonivore]

lots of ambiguity, and we know Wilson was coached for weeks and was ing lying ( demon! grunting, insane, terrifying (unarmed) animal! ), is what police and police orgs do, The Blue Wall. Wilson trained to do his job, killin' n!gg@s.

If Brown had been white, he'd be alive.

Funny how his testimony matched that of several witnesses (black, no less) whose statements were taken contemporaneous to the event and the forensic evidence.

[boutons_deux]

What other option did Wilson have after Brown punched him, tried to disarm him, and charged him?

How about: got in his car, rolled back, called for help (he was so afeared!)? It's not as if 300 pound, probably well known, injured black man in a small town was going to disappear.

The first and only and immediate (as in "ASAP") option for white cops, as they are formally trained and informally, culturally trained, seems to be killin' n!gg@s

[Ignignokt]

Legally, according to the applicable laws and regulations?

Sure, one can always find a reason.

I will allow for the possibility it could have been handled another way, but that's all conjecture.

Who made that claim?

you did.

[ChumpDumper]

you did.

Nope.

[boutons_deux]

Funny how his testimony matched that of several witnesses (black, no less) whose statements were taken contemporaneous to the event and the forensic evidence.

there was plenty of contradiction, ambiguity, and TESTIMONY changing, esp in the exonerators's CRITICAL witness #10

[Yonivore]

there was plenty of contradiction, ambiguity, and TESTIMONY changing, esp in the exonerators's CRITICAL witness #10

But, not in Witness #34.

And, there was more contradiction, ambiguity, and out-and-out fabrication in much of the testimony that tended to not align with Officer Wilson's version of events. So, there's that.

When you say "plenty," just exactly what did witness #10 change?

[TheSanityAnnex]

lots of ambiguity, and we know Wilson was coached for weeks and was ing lying ( demon! grunting, insane, terrifying (unarmed) animal! ), is what police and police orgs do, The Blue Wall. Wilson trained to do his job, killin' n!gg@s.

If Brown had been white, he'd be alive.

Are you saying the multiple African American witnesses who gave the same account as Wilson also lied to protect Wilson while also endangering their own well being?

[boutons_deux]

Are you saying the multiple African American witnesses who gave the same account as Wilson also lied to protect Wilson while also endangering their own well being?

you said that, I didn't.

[TheSanityAnnex]

you said that, I didn't.

You said Wilson was coached for weeks and ing lying, were the African American witnesses who testified and supported Wilson's account coached and lying as well?

[Ignignokt]

Nope.

Why lie? You asked Yoni if he was dangerous from 150ft. Clearly an implication that he was shot from 150 ft.

You also said you believed the testimony-singular- from the trial, when there was multiple.

Are you going to own up to your ignorance?

[ChumpDumper]

Why lie? You asked Yoni if he was dangerous from 150ft. Clearly an implication that he was shot from 150 ft.

You also said you believed the testimony-singular- from the trial, when there was multiple.

Are you going to own up to your ignorance?

Testimony on the whole.

Easy concept.

I did ask about the distance because I was unclear about the entire chain of events. I still have questions but nothing anyone here could answer.

If it's really that important to you we can discuss further.

[Yonivore]

I still have questions but nothing anyone here could answer.

Lack of direct knowledge of an event has never been reason for anyone in this forum, you included, not to have an answer. Try us, Chump.

[boutons_deux]

[ChumpDumper]

Lack of direct knowledge of an event has never been reason for anyone in this forum, you included, not to have an answer. Try us, Chump.

An answer would require direct knowledge.

Thanks for the offer.

[Yonivore]

An answer would require direct knowledge.

Thanks for the offer.

It wasn't really an offer as much as it was an observation.

[ChumpDumper]

It wasn't really an offer as much as it was an observation.

You said "try us."

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Just so I understand your position; are you suggesting that, in spite of forensic evidence to the contrary, officer Wilson and Mike Brown didn't wrestle for control of the officer's service weapon, while Brown was leaning through the window of his patrol vehicle, and during which Brown received a contact gunshot wound to his thumb?

Are you also suggesting, counter to the forensic evidence and corroborating witness statements, Mike Brown was not only facing Officer Wilson when he was shot but, that he was charging at the officer as if he were going to tackle him?

Just checking.

His corpse was 150 ft away from the car door. This is not hard.

[FuzzyLumpkins]

Lack of direct knowledge of an event has never been reason for anyone in this forum, you included, not to have an answer. Try us, Chump.

Speak for yourself. I say that all the time.

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Officer Who Fatally Shot Tamir Rice Deemed Unfit for Duty in 2012

Timothy Loehmann criticised by small Ohio force for breaking down while handling live gun and his performance was called ‘dismal’, records show

police officer who shot a 12-year-old dead in a Cleveland park late last month had been judged unfit for police service two years earlier by a small suburban force where he worked for six months, according to records released on Wednesday.

Officer Timothy Loehmann, who killed Tamir Rice on 22 November, was specifically faulted for breaking down emotionally while handling a live gun. During a training episode at a firing range, Loehmann was reported to be “distracted and weepy” and incommunicative. “His handgun performance was dismal,” deputy chief Jim Polak of the Independence, Ohio, police department wrote in an internal memo.

The memo concludes with a recommendation that Loehmann be “released from the employment of the City of Independence”. Less than a week later, on 3 December 2012, Loehmann resigned.
In March of this year, Loehmann was hired by the Cleveland police department. It is unclear whether the department had seen the Independence memo at the time of Loehmann’s hiring.

http://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2...n-judged-unfit

Apparently, a lot bad cops fired from the police end up on the sheriff's / constable's staffs.

sheriff's: Oath Keepers! the primary, supreme defenders, interpreters of the US Cons ution

[TheSanityAnnex]

boutons....

Are you saying the multiple African American witnesses who gave the same account as Wilson also lied to protect Wilson while also endangering their own well being?

[Yonivore]

You said "try us."

It was rhetorical.