Police chokehold on man ruled a homicide

[Blake]

So you think putting a chokehold on someone is legal? So I could theoretically walk up to you in the middle of NYC and put you into a choke hold until you pass out and the police would do nothing?

Serious question. I want to know how devoid from reality you are about processing this situation.

Because choking me for no reason is exactly the same.

Serious question: are you trying to turn this into an e-contest or are you really asking for the truth?

Because the truth is rather easy to google or I can provide it if you ask nicely. But if you're trying to go with some upper cuts here, it won't end well.

[Blake]

No. You're just an idiot. And I'm done with you.

Suit yourself. You're wrong.

[Cry Havoc]

Suit yourself. You're wrong.

Nope. You're an idiot. And you're wrong. By all means show the links to prove otherwise. You can't. And you won't. Because you're full of .

[spurraider21]

This thread hurts my brain.

Cop chokes man

Man dies soon after

And we have people arguing about whether or not the choke killed him. As in, if the cop didn't choke him out he would have keeled over of his own accord that very same day.

probably because the coroners report also cited his prone position, the chest compression (from the weight above him, not any sort of choke hold), and his weight in conjunction with the two. if you watch the video you can see the guy repeatedy saying "i cant breathe" while he was on the ground even after the choke was released. if i had a choke hold on you, and AFTER i let it go, would you be saying "i cant breathe" for 20+ seconds and then just die? the only way that would happen is if i damaged your trachea to an extent that was not discovered in this case

[spurraider21]

So I could theoretically walk up to you in the middle of NYC and put you into a choke hold until you pass out and the police would do nothing?.

its would also be illegal for me to walk up to you, forcibly put you in handcuffs, force you into the backseat of my car, and drive you into a holding cell in my house, even if i saw you commit a crime. yet this is police protocol.

can you stop confusing NYPD policy with NY state law?

[Creepn]

Insinuating the system is perfect and would never indict someone who hasn't committed a crime

That's one of my main problem with these police sympathizers. They refuse to acknowledge the wrongdoings because the law gives them a pass somehow so therefore they must be innocent. It should be the other way around.

Blake, you like to bash Christians for not questioning the bible but here you are justifying murder because of what infallible men wrote.

[spurraider21]

i acknowledged the cop's wrongdoing in administering a choke hold that goes against NYPD guidelines and suggested he get disciplined for that

[debo]

Man caught on camera doing something illegal, result is a fatality.
Innocent. Guarantee if the man who died was caught on camera doing something illegal (and dont say he was resisting arrest, he seemed plenty contained), a jury would have no problem disciplining him.
Bull .

[Blake]

Nope. You're an idiot. And you're wrong. By all means show the links to prove otherwise. You can't. And you won't. Because you're full of .

You didn't ask nicely so there's gonna have to be something in it for me to do work for you.

a new sig declaring my greatness might work.

[Biernutz]

The police made a mistake on how he was detained. When you have a guy who is as big as three men,
who is combative and resiting arrest you just back off and tazer him. If that wont bring him down, shoot
him in the kneecap. Like chopping down a tree.

[spurraider21]

The police made a mistake on how he was detained. When you have a guy who is as big as three men,
who is combative and resiting arrest you just back off and tazer him. If that wont bring him down, shoot
him in the kneecap. Like chopping down a tree.

no

[Blake]

That's one of my main problem with these police sympathizers. They refuse to acknowledge the wrongdoings because the law gives them a pass somehow so therefore they must be innocent. It should be the other way around.

Blake, you like to bash Christians for not questioning the bible but here you are justifying murder because of what infallible men wrote.

I'm not justifying it at all. In fact, I've already said here that the family needs to sue for wrongful death since department policy was not followed.

[Blake]

The police made a mistake on how he was detained. When you have a guy who is as big as three men,
who is combative and resiting arrest you just back off and tazer him. If that wont bring him down, shoot
him in the kneecap. Like chopping down a tree.

people have also died from tazers

[Biernutz]

people have also died from tazers

It's not a head lock.......

[Blake]

It's not a choke hold........

meh. Taser might be a marginally better option, especially considering the guy's condition(s)

I don't like either option, tbh.

[spurraider21]

I'm not justifying it at all. In fact, I've already said here that the family needs to sue for wrongful death since department policy was not followed.

[Biernutz]

it might be a marginally better option, especially considering the guy's condition(s)

Cops need to put away their egos and drop these combative and resiting men with a approved non- lethal tools. Bean
bags, nets and tazers are some of them. Not 10 second head lock.

[Cry Havoc]

That's one of my main problem with these police sympathizers. They refuse to acknowledge the wrongdoings because the law gives them a pass somehow so therefore they must be innocent. It should be the other way around.

Blake, you like to bash Christians for not questioning the bible but here you are justifying murder because of what infallible men wrote.

The cognitive dissonance on this board is a sight to behold.

[cantthinkofanything]

The cognitive dissonance on this board is a sight to behold.

That's my favorite Tesla album.

[spurraider21]

That's my favorite Tesla album.

Tesla is cool. they opened for Scorpions last june, they killed it

[CosmicCowboy]

Every single news article covering this states as such.

http://www.cnn.com/2014/12/03/justic...ury-chokehold/

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5634186.html

https://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...rges-1.9676351

"Pantaleo now faces the prospect of command discipline and an Internal Affairs Bureau probe, police officials said. Police investigators will be closely looking at whether Pantaleo used excessive force, including a chokehold that is against NYPD protocol, said one law enforcement official."

IIRC reading it was outlawed in 1993.

Your own links even refute your claim.

Cops using a choke hold is not illegal even though it is against department policy.

Sources said the NYPD probe will specifically try to determine whether Pantaleo used a chokehold, which is not illegal in New York, but is against department policy.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/...hokehold-case/

[Blake]

The cognitive dissonance on this board is a sight to behold.

Yeah, like when someone says "this thread hurts my brain".

Funny stuff, tbh.

[Blake]

Your own links even refute your claim.

Cops using a choke hold is not illegal even though it is against department policy.



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/...hokehold-case/

Aw, Cmon man. Don't give it away for free.

[cantthinkofanything]

Tesla is cool. they opened for Scorpions last june, they killed it

I bet that was pretty cool. One of my favorite albums back in the day was Scorpions World Wide Live. They often end up as a punchline but they were badass.
And tbh, my favorite Tesla album was The Great Radio Controversy.

[Cry Havoc]

It's both a NYPD guideline AND a state law. Both expressly prohibit a choke-hold such as what happened.

Your own links even refute your claim.

Cops using a choke hold is not illegal even though it is against department policy.



http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2014/12/...hokehold-case/

Fails at reading comprehension. I made it big since apparently you need help.