The Ferguson Indictment (on Justice)

[ChumpDumper]

Well, it wasn't helpful in my being able to determine what you consider a complaint unless you're suggesting everything I post is one. In that case, I would ask you to define complain although, I'm more interested in knowing why you believe the racial component to Mr. Garner's arrest is any more relevant than the color of his shoes.

I already said I was fine with saying the cop was a ty cop without involving race. What more do you want?

[Yonivore]

I already said I was fine with saying the cop was a ty cop without involving race. What more do you want?

I want to know why you believe race, as a component, is self evident in the arrest of Mr. Garner. I suppose you've confused yourself with all the irrelevant nonsense but, that was what we were originally discussing.

[ChumpDumper]

I want to know why you believe race, as a component, is self evident in the arrest of Mr. Garner. I suppose you've confused yourself with all the irrelevant nonsense but, that was what we were originally discussing.

As you originally defined component before moving the goalpost, race is a component.

You then moved the goalpost and I said fine, dude is just a ty cop even without your newly defined component.

What part do you not understand?

[Yonivore]

As you originally defined component before moving the goalpost, race is a component.

Link or quote the post where I failed to qualify my use of the word component as relating to the arrest.

You then moved the goalpost and I said fine, dude is just a ty cop even without your newly defined component.

Again, I reject your assertion I changed my position any.

What part do you not understand?

The part where you said race was a self-evident component. That's what I'm trying to get you to answer.

[ChumpDumper]

Link or quote the post where I failed to qualify my use of the word component as relating to the arrest.

Already done.

Again, I reject your assertion I changed my position any.

Reject away.

The part where you said race was a self-evident component. That's what I'm trying to get you to answer.

Already did.

[Yonivore]

Already done.

So, you should be able to do it again, I missed it in all the nonsensical back and forth.

Reject away.

Just did.

Already did.

Again, I missed it. You should be able to articulate the point again unless, of course, it is as I suspect, you just want to be tedious and annoying and aren't actually interested in a discussion.

[ChumpDumper]

So, you should be able to do it again, I missed it in all the nonsensical back and forth.


Just did.


Again, I missed it. You should be able to articulate the point again unless, of course, it is as I suspect, you just want to be tedious and annoying and aren't actually interested in a discussion.

I'm trying to figure out why you want to keep talking about race when I already stopped.

Why do you want to keep talking about race?

[Yonivore]

I'm trying to figure out why you want to keep talking about race when I already stopped.

Why do you want to keep talking about race?

So, it is as I suspect.

[ChumpDumper]

So, it is as I suspect.

Nope.

But you really want to continue talking about race after all.

Go figure.

[Yonivore]

Nope.

But you really want to continue talking about race after all.

Go figure.

Actually, all I wanted was for you to respond to the question of why you believe race is a self-evident component in the arrest of Mr. Garner. But, we don't have to talk about it anymore, if you don't want to.

You will say, "I've already done that," and I will say, "I missed it," and you will continue to be tedious and annoying. So, never mind...I'm really no longer interested in your opinion on the matter.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, all I wanted was for you to respond to the question of why you believe race is a self-evident component in the arrest of Mr. Garner. But, we don't have to talk about it anymore, if you don't want to.

You will say, "I've already done that," and I will say, "I missed it," and you will continue to be tedious and annoying. So, never mind...I'm really no longer interested in your opinion on the matter.

You never were.

Just be more precise with your language next time, then you won't have to move the goalposts later.

Pro tip.

[ChumpDumper]

NEW YORK — The white New York City police officer whose choke hold led to the death of an unarmed black man has been sued three times for allegedly violating the cons utional rights of other blacks he and fellow cops arrested.

One settled.

One dismissed.

One pending.

But it's all unknowable, so no need to bother ever questioning or investigating anything a police officer does.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...sued/19899461/

[Yonivore]

You never were.

Actually, I was interested in how anyone could say race is a self-evident component to the arrest of Eric Garner. I would have been interested no matter who posted it -- it just happened to be you.

[ChumpDumper]

Actually, I was interested in how anyone could say race is a self-evident component to the arrest of Eric Garner. I would have been interested no matter who posted it -- it just happened to be you.

Well, with the original goalpost position, it is self-evident.

How would you describe the suspect?

[Yonivore]

Well, with the original goalpost position, it is self-evident.

Quote or post my "original goalpost position," please.

How would you describe the suspect?

In what context?

[ChumpDumper]

Quote or post my "original goalpost position," please.

Already did.

Link worked and everything.

In what context?

in he context of describing him.

A physical description.

[Yonivore]

One settled.

One dismissed.

One pending.

But it's all unknowable, so no need to bother ever questioning or investigating anything a police officer does.

Link please.

[ChumpDumper]

Link please.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...sued/19899461/

[Yonivore]

Already did.

Link worked and everything.

And, again, I missed it. I missed the post in which you linked it, too. Please help me here. I'm asking nicely because I can't respond to something when I don't know to what you're referring.

in he context of describing him.

A physical description.

A very obese African-American male wearing a grey t-shirt, tan cargo shorts, and what I think are blue (but, they could be black) tennis shoes. Not knowing the surroundings or the height of anyone else there, I'd estimate him to be about 6'1" tall but, I'm not very good at those type of estimates from video.

[ChumpDumper]

African-American

Thanks.

[Yonivore]

Thanks.

That's like suggesting his grey t-shirt was a component of his arrest.

[ChumpDumper]

That's like suggesting his grey t-shirt was a component of his arrest.

No.

Not at all.

That isn't even close to being the same.

[Yonivore]

No.

Not at all.

That isn't even close to being the same.

How is it different in the context of components related to Mr. Garner's arrest? The color and style of his shirt had no more to do with his arrest than his skin color.

[ChumpDumper]

How is it different in the context of components related to Mr. Garner's arrest? The color and style of his shirt had no more to do with his arrest than his skin color.

Goalpost move again duly noted.

[Yonivore]

Goalpost move again duly noted.

How is his race different from the color of his shirt, in the context of his arrest?

And, I can't respond to the goalpost comment unless you tell what I've changed.