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Never mind.
Already did.
Couple times.
I am starting to think you are feigning obtuseness.
Never mind.
Well hopefully Chump and Yon can take a breather and let this thread get back on track...
This is an interesting essay/post by Benjamin Watson... its a couple of weeks old but I haven't seen it brought up on SpursTalk, thought I'd share it and see what others think...
towards the end he gets all up in jeebus crust, but i think its a good read nonetheless
https://www.facebook.com/BenjaminWat...02172116576590
At some point while I was playing or preparing to play Monday Night Football, the news broke about the Ferguson Decision. After trying to figure out how I felt, I decided to write it down. Here are my thoughts:
I'M ANGRY because the stories of injustice that have been passed down for generations seem to be continuing before our very eyes.
I'M FRUSTRATED, because pop culture, music and movies glorify these types of police citizen altercations and promote an invincible at ude that continues to get young men killed in real life, away from safety movie sets and music studios.
I'M FEARFUL because in the back of my mind I know that although I'm a law abiding citizen I could still be looked upon as a "threat" to those who don't know me. So I will continue to have to go the extra mile to earn the benefit of the doubt.
I'M EMBARRASSED because the looting, violent protests, and law breaking only confirm, and in the minds of many, validate, the stereotypes and thus the inferior treatment.
I'M SAD, because another young life was lost from his family, the racial divide has widened, a community is in shambles, accusations, insensitivity hurt and hatred are boiling over, and we may never know the truth about what happened that day.
I'M SYMPATHETIC, because I wasn't there so I don't know exactly what happened. Maybe Darren Wilson acted within his rights and duty as an officer of the law and killed Michael Brown in self defense like any of us would in the cir stance. Now he has to fear the backlash against himself and his loved ones when he was only doing his job. What a horrible thing to endure. OR maybe he provoked Michael and ignited the series of events that led to him eventually murdering the young man to prove a point.
I'M OFFENDED, because of the insulting comments I've seen that are not only insensitive but dismissive to the painful experiences of others.
I'M CONFUSED, because I don't know why it's so hard to obey a policeman. You will not win!!! And I don't know why some policeman abuse their power. Power is a responsibility, not a weapon to brandish and lord over the populace.
I'M INTROSPECTIVE, because sometimes I want to take "our" side without looking at the facts in situations like these. Sometimes I feel like it's us against them. Sometimes I'm just as prejudiced as people I point fingers at. And that's not right. How can I look at white skin and make assumptions but not want assumptions made about me? That's not right.
I'M HOPELESS, because I've lived long enough to expect things like this to continue to happen. I'm not surprised and at some point my little children are going to inherit the weight of being a minority and all that it entails.
I'M HOPEFUL, because I know that while we still have race issues in America, we enjoy a much different normal than those of our parents and grandparents. I see it in my personal relationships with teammates, friends and mentors. And it's a beautiful thing.
I'M ENCOURAGED, because ultimately the problem is not a SKIN problem, it is a SIN problem. SIN is the reason we rebel against authority. SIN is the reason we abuse our authority. SIN is the reason we are racist, prejudiced and lie to cover for our own. SIN is the reason we riot, loot and burn. BUT I'M ENCOURAGED because God has provided a solution for sin through the his son Jesus and with it, a transformed heart and mind. One that's capable of looking past the outward and seeing what's truly important in every human being. The cure for the Michael Brown, Trayvon Martin, Tamir Rice and Eric Garner tragedies is not education or exposure. It's the Gospel. So, finally, I'M ENCOURAGED because the Gospel gives mankind hope.
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He got me until the last paragraph... ugh...
indeed. thought about omitting it tbh
realistically, it just looks like he's on both sides of the fence so he doesn't get anybody's bad side... but it gives some good perspective anyway
ing Bible humpers, simplistic cretins.
Fox host: Minority communities need to be trained to be ‘more sensitive to the police’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/f...e+Raw+Story%29
you mean they should behave responsibly around people authorized to use force? no
You failed to answer so I'll ask again.Fox host: Minority communities need to be trained to be ‘more sensitive to the police’
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/12/f...e+Raw+Story%29
You said Wilson was coached for weeks and ing lying, were the African American witnesses who testified and supported Wilson's account coached and lying as well?
That's racist
Wilson was coached, the witnesses were hardballed or softballed if they were not supporting or supporting no indictment.
and you IG ING NORE what, how Wilson initially INFLAMED Brown, and that Wilson was trolling a black neighborhood to harass blacks.
how do you know?
do you the rookie NY cop who accidentally killed an innocent black CALLED HIS UNION LAWYERS before he called his HQ?
the exonerator's ENTIRE GRAND JURY charade was a farce, a Kangaroo show trial, which you RACISTS "believe" as Bible truth. The goal was to CONVICT Brown and DEFEND Wilson. mission accomplished.
So do you dismiss the rest because he is a Christian?
I thought it was some of the most enlightened, open thoughts on the situation - he didn't "tribe" up, but admitted he has instincts to do just that. The fact that this most reasoned, eloquent response might be influenced by a man's faith causes you to respond with "ugh"?
Prejudice, indeed.
Probably the most ironic statement I've ever read on SpursTalk.
the Wilson exonerator lied,
Ferguson grand jury do ents withheld
In spite of St. Louis County Prosecutor Robert McCulloch's promises to make all witness testimony in the Michael Brown shooting case public so he could show the process was fair and impartial, McCulloch's office now acknowledges that it kept some records secret at the behest of federal authorities who are still investigating the incident.
The acknowledgment came after a review by KSDK-TV found several key do ents were missing from the thousands of pages released by McCulloch's office on Nov. 24, shortly after the prosecutor announced that the grand jury had decided not to indict Ferguson police officer Darren Wilson for killing the unarmed teen.
McCulloch's executive assistant, Ed Magee, said the office released everything it still had when the case was closed, but had "turned over and relinquished control" of some FBI's interviews conducted in connection with the shooting.
Dorian Johnson interview withheld
A team of investigative reporters from around the country reviewed the transcripts released by McCulloch's office, which included law enforcement interviews with 24 witnesses. Most con uous in its absence was the joint federal-county interview with the witness who had been closest to the deadly confrontation, Michael Brown's friend Dorian Johnson.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/n...held/20072311/
Dorian is the LEAST credible witness
There, fixed it.
I would've had the same reaction if it he invoked Allah, the flying spaghetti monster or Buddha, it's not strictly a Christian thing, tbh...
I enjoyed the read until the last paragraph, which I strongly disagree with. It doesn't invalidate the rest though, never said that.
Police homicide is a public safety problem. The main causes are impunity and the silence of the guild. Make it easier to get rid of the 5% of LEOs who are 95% of the problem by having outside investigations of excessive use of force and prosecuting LEOs who lie or impede investigations into the same.
On the list of public safety problems, where do you rank police homicide?
We have a crime problem not a police problem.
Trust in public officials, especially police, should be a pretty damn high priority...no matter what Yoni thinks...
violent crime across the board is near histoic lows in the USA, and has been trending downward for over twenty years. police homicides are trending in the other direction.
does it make sense that excessive force and police homicide should be on the rise when the crime rate is so near the all time low?
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