Pop landing a gutshot on Chinook...

[100%duncan]

I do remember you as a stupid person, true, but I don't remember which argument it was.

Benching a player= ting on him

[rogues]

So butthurt

.. and so dumb

"Thinking that benching a player is taking from the coach." re-read and re-understand you dumb

coyotecoin and that Longhorn you quoted are old gots, tbh..just so ya know..

[100%duncan]

coyotecoin and that Longhorn you quoted are old gots, tbh..just so ya know..

OH BUT POP BENCHED PARKER. HE HATES HIM!!! SHOULDA LET HIM STAYED ON THE FLOOR NO MATTER WHAT THE COST WILL BE.

[ElNono]

[pgardn]

I didn't disagree dumbass, re-read "Pop rained compliments for Parker all playoffs long last season." is that disagreeing? You went all defensive for him right at the get go.

Apparently you reading Einstein hasn't help you understand basic comprehension so why would I.

Then dont "Pop" in for another poster, asshole.
Look what I bolded and how it was addressed.

This is what happens to dumb fcks who enter a discussion they should never have entered. Especially a poster with an agenda.

[Hoops Czar]

What a thread!!! Chinook went postal and Nono's running for office.

[100%duncan]

Then dont "Pop" in for another poster, asshole.
Look what I bolded and how it was addressed.

This is what happens to dumb fcks who enter a discussion they should never have entered. Especially a poster with an agenda.

Benching a player= ting on him

Agenda when I'm one of biggest Parker defenders when he shat the bad against the Heat. But hey sorry for hurting your feelings about your hero

[rogues]

OH BUT POP BENCHED PARKER. HE HATES HIM!!! SHOULDA LET HIM STAYED ON THE FLOOR NO MATTER WHAT THE COST WILL BE.

I don't have anything against the Longhorn but that coyotecoin is annoyingly old, imo..you can tell the age..he sounds like xmas..

[littlecoyotecoin]

What part of "incessant criticism" did you misunderstand? Pop didn't just bench him.

[pgardn]

Benching a player= ting on him

Agenda when I'm one of biggest Parker defenders when he shat the bad against the Heat. But hey sorry for hurting your feelings about your hero

Whatever. A benching because one is acting like an ahole by not following directions, or not producing, is very different than winded. I can't help you with your ignorance.

You have proven yourself fairly useless. At least Chinook has a little background and substance.
Keep up with emoticons as words seem too complex for you.
Later.

Have a good tonite and a better tomorrow.

[100%duncan]

Whatever. A benching because one is acting like an ahole by not following directions, or not producing, is very different than winded. I can't help you with your ignorance.

You have proven yourself fairly useless. At least Chinook has a little background and substance.
Keep up with emoticons as words seem too complex for you.
Later.

Have a good tonite and a better tomorrow.

Nice job contradicting yourself dumbass

[pgardn]

What part of "incessant criticism" did you misunderstand? Pop didn't just bench him.

Parker had his ears boxed in by Pop.
Looked like Parker was gonna cry more than once.

[Chinook]

I always emphasize the importance of Danny forcing a pass or changing shots but you use PPP arguments to underestimate the best of Leonard's defense.

I think that's a big assumption on your part. You assume that Leonard is better at denying passes than Green is, to the extent that it makes up for all the quantifiable differences. I question that immensely.

It's understandable the different points of view are always subjetive but even when your own numbers don't say what you want then there is a convenient story behind the stats.

I still put them out there unedited so that people can have their own interpretation. If anything, that adds credibility to my numbers, since they don't always agree with me. Anyway, I've said the same thing about Kawhi a lot. You act like I bash his defense. I don't. It's just not as good as people think it is. He has real problems that people ignore, and his working on them is critical to him being the player he needs to be to lead the Spurs.

Nobody says he doesn't help...he does, he over play help so much.

That's debatable, which was the point of my contention. The PtR article claimed that by showing him getting burned on threes. But clearly Danny has such as high DRtg and DRAPM that he can't be the net-negative in team D they assume he was. They didn't actually look at the effect of his help defense, just some of the consequences of it. Danny gambles and gets burned sometimes, but he wins so much more that it's a net positive, hence his elite team-defense numbers.

[ElNono]

so what's the conclusion here? Danny gonna be a solid addition to the Cleveland Cavaliers next season?

[BillMc]

so what's the conclusion here? Danny gonna be a solid addition to the Cleveland Cavaliers next season?

They can't afford him unless they shed a few contracts. Thank God!

[BG_Spurs_Fan]

How about this for objective:

Opponent Counterpart 48-Minute Production
FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
PG 21.3 .714 .0 28% 6.1 6.1 3.0 .0 .0 30.5 29.0
SG 17.3 .379 2.6 21% 5.5 4.4 2.6 1.0 2.4 14.7 8.0
SF 16.7 .459 3.8 25% 5.2 1.8 2.9 .9 4.1 18.9 10.6

Leonards opponent's production this year. EFG by opposing sf is essentially the same, yet PER allowed is better by Green. In any event, average opponent PER production or lower for Leonard:

Opponent Counterpart 48-Minute Production
Position
FGA eFG% FTA iFG Reb Ast T/O Blk PF Pts PER*
SF 16.0 .464 2.2 27% 6.8 4.5 1.5 .6 3.2 16.6 15.0
PF 11.0 .250 8.8 30% 3.3 3.3 1.1 1.1 6.6 12.1 3.3

Did you really use this to back-up Kawhi's case or you simply don't know what the numbers mean, saw PG PER of Green and thought you'd hit a homerun?

Green is almost equally on SG and SF ( 24 - 34 % ), allowing the opponent to have a PER of 8.0 and 10.6. This is not simply elite, it's ridiculous - just check Tony Allen's or Jimmy Butler's numbers - they're more on par with Kawhi's, but far far behind Green's.

For the record, last years' DPOYs counterpart's PER :
2013/14 - Joakim Noah - 16.7;
2012/13 - Marc Gasol - 14.6;
2011/12 - Tyson Chandler - 12.6;
2010/11 - Dwight Howard - 11.8.

Green is ridiculous. He was just as good last seaon ( 11.0 and 8.8 ). Kawhi's? 14.7.

[Chinook]

Give SFnLA a break. It's not easy to parse stats at first. If he wants to kerp going, he'll learn. He'll also see why I think Green is a better defender than Kawhi and why I dismiss Pop's evaluation. You don't have to fluff up Danny's numbers to make him look good; the dude's inreal if you actually look at him instead of trying to find mistakes.

[dabom]

Next chinnok is going to use plus/minus to show us bonner is the best spur in the team and denounce pop's comments of late
"Jeff McDonald: Asked Pop to explain Matt Bonner's NBA longevity (10-plus seasons): "There's always room for one lumberjack in the league. That's Matty." Twitter @JMcDonald_SAEN"

[Chinook]

Funny thing is that you don't realize that Bonner's had a great season so far.

[dabom]

Funny thing is that you don't realize that Bonner's had a great season so far.

By his standards probably, not by the leagues though. Or else he wouldn't be the 5th 6th big off the bench even playing for the spurs.
I love stats but I put context to them and then I look at the impact of the player with my eyes and experience. I form a conclusion. I don't let pre-existent biased stats steer me out the road.
You need to see the bigger picture.

[RD2191]

[RD2191]

Chump is a got. Let's get this rolling.

[dabom]

Chump is a got. Let's get this rolling.

I heard if you say his name 3 times in a thread he shows up.

"Chump" - thats 2.

[RD2191]

I heard if you say his name 3 times in a thread he shows up.

"Chump" - thats 2.

[dabom]