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are you high because that made no ing sense..
Big in' deal. He only did it because he was "scheduled" to. "I'll show them. Right Phoenix Media, this is what I'm supposed to do since they traded me, right?" --- "Yeah, yeah, yeah, we'll wait over here in the deserts and then write a bunch of glowing stories and talk all day on the radio about it. Go, on, Eric."
Now, tonite, up the street? he'll give 2 s.
are you high because that made no ing sense..
..that's because you have a peanut for a brain.
Bledsoe only gave a last night because it's the thing to do (play your heart out Vs. your former team.) Tonite Vs. Miami he'll be back to his regular self:::moody, spotty, crumpy, distracted, militant, self serving.
One of my favorite cities tbh. Scottsdale is one of the nicest suburb that i've been to and this coming from a San Dieagan. Some of the most exotic restaurants too.
I love this thread ... I give Mid credit for taking a strong take ... even if it was proven to be wrong.
I think I have come around to the theory that no one is "truly clutch" not Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Manu, Melo, Paul, Pierce, Dirk I have seen all of the top clutch players have some shaky clutch moments since Mid first posted this. I think dudes get on a hot streak of making clutch shots and those stick in your mind more than the misses, turnovers etc. The clutch rep is built on those shots even though stats prove almost all those guys miss more than they make ... Even Horry has missed some clutch jumpers in the playoffs. I think all are good closers and I would rather those guys take the last shot over most anyone because they have made a lot as well.
The best clutch shots are the ones created by great offensive plays (like the Green 3 pointer off the Duncan down screen) to force OT last week. Iso clutch shots or even pnr shots to force a switch are iffy when the defense is locked in late in games ...
Killa. Don't drag the rest of the greats into the pile with Kobe.
Players shot slightly below their own FG% in crunch time because of limited time, better defense and less options. They don't shoot 25% and act like they make the shots all the time.
Quality takeBryant is the best closer since Jordan.
^Without him our ghosts are still up in Oregon since '00. That pissed Media off to the max. They had Daddy stretched out and we're gonna not only do him dirt, but, damnable dirt.
Ignore Kobe I still stand by my post. Paul melo and pierce were the clutch argument a few years back all have crashed back to earth. Again I would be happy to have any of those cats take a tough shot, to take a last second shot but rather have Danny Green open off a Spurs misdirection screen tbh.
Not all of them fail during every single clutch situation though unlike CPFlop
You are basically saying a well run set is better than ISO ball, which we all know.
Kobe is so ridiculously bad in the clutch because he failed to utilize the other team mates and run good sets, not to mention he is no where close to as good as he or most kobestans think he is.
All the superstars make shots in the clutch at a reasonable rate. All except one.
the problem is the philosophy Iso ball versus good offense. the teams making clutch shots and clutch plays the most are the better coached teams. Spurs, Heat and Mavs have great players that can make tough shots but their offense gets players open looks and that is why Bosh, Green and Ellis are getting clutch shots as much as Lebron, Manu and Dirk. Pop wouldnt pur Kobe or anyone in iso 24/7 sometimes its' Manu in that spot but if he has time it's usually off a screen and there is always another option running on the weak side.
I wont argue with you because it fits your agenda and I dont really care this was about Paul ... and I defended Mid saying that Clutch is mostly "myth" ...
You want to bash Kobe go do it in the hundred of other threads. My point was more that clutch is really dependant on execution on talent or some mystical clutch powers. I started coaching again recently and yes I can run a great play and my players may not make a late game shot. but if I choose to give it my PG (my best player) and say just beat him 1 on 1 and he fails whose fault is that? That is what most elite coaches are doing and they win if they have the best player.
To be fair, Kirbs is chucking at a 23% clip in the clutch for his career. He's down in the pile with ChokePERIOD
Aint got nary a problem with that
Are you trying to say Phil Jackson is a bad coach? I will say that is very overrated, but he is not a bad coach. And oftentimes, it's not coaches putting Kobe in those situations, it's kobe putting Kobe in those situations. Would you trust him in giving up glory for a win?
Clutchness could be a myth, but choking is not.
In your hypothetical situation, it's obviously the coaches fault by not preparing the team, but will your PG get you fired from your full time job if you don't let him run ISO plays?
Kobe's daughters look like Tim , tbh
You can call whomever you want overrated Kobe, Phil whomever. My point is even Kobe has to follow a play-call. Maybe Phil and others keep calling Kobe plays because that is what Kobe wants, but my point is RC/Pop and even Phil (to a lessor extent) have the balls to choose someone else. Kobe was mostly fine (or average) in the clutch with Phil because we ran good stuff ...since Phil left his clutch numbers (by my accounts ) have gotten worse.
Again it's not about Kobe. Well for you it almost always is. Do you think Paul is great in the clutch, amb? He was the subject of this thread... how about Melo? Pierce?
Nope. All you want to do is talk Kobe.
BTW Phil is a slightly overrated ... but no way should the 2009-2010 Lakers won backtoback les, so his job with that team makes up for the myth he built riding Mj and Shaqobe.
Maybe, but do we have any DNA proof that Tammy's the biological father? Do they hablo Español? Not trolling.
Not really, Phil called Kobe uncoachable in a written book. Him not running set plays is part of it.
I don't think CP3 is great in the clutch, I think he is average where he has his moments and his share of failures, and they generally even each other out to the point of his average production.
Melo is great, so is Pierce. They make smart plays during crunch time. Players like Bird and Mike were great in the clutch, so was West. Manu's great, Duncan is average, Parker is bad.
As for the 09-10 les, those were the most loaded teams during those times, Phil SHOULD have won b2b. If it wasn't for some ridiculous FTs in the 4th of Game 7 against an injured Celtic team, that team would be one and done. Phil Jackson actually did his best coaching in 06 and 07.
As opposed to what they normally do.
CP3 is not a great closer, but thanks to Enrique, he looked like one yesterday
More lol
He hit two lucky shots the 2nd one it looked like he couldn't even see the basket. Let him take those shot tied or even and see if they fall.
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