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It was kind of a joke. It does tie into racism as yall are discussing (when is something racist vs just what it is) but it was more tounge in cheek.
I had a feeling you had no idea what racism was, you don't.
It was kind of a joke. It does tie into racism as yall are discussing (when is something racist vs just what it is) but it was more tounge in cheek.
Where is the superiority? Who's being opressed? Who is being held down?
I'm just glad you didn't seriously expect me to answer that.
So you are acknowledging there is a difference in black men and white men as a whole when it comes to sports (NFL, NBA, ect..)?
Generally speaking, yes. There are a lot of reasons for that though.
Serious question here: When you see predominantly white head coaches, do you tell the black counterparts to just coach better and they will get the jobs, or is there racism there vs running backs just being faster?
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Racism consists of both prejudice and discrimination based in social perceptions of biological differences between peoples. It often takes the form of social actions, practices or beliefs, or political systems that consider different races to be ranked as inherently superior or inferior to each other, based on presumed shared inheritable traits, abilities, or qualities. It may also hold that members of different races should be treated differently.[1][2][3]
Among the questions about how to define racism are the question of whether to include forms of discrimination that are unintentional, such as making assumptions about preferences or abilities of others based on racial stereotypes, whether to include symbolic or ins utionalized forms of discrimination such as the circulation of ethnic stereotypes through the media, and whether to include the socio-political dynamics of social stratification that sometimes have a racial component.
We can acknowledge the facts that we have differences without having to be negative about things.
There is no doubt of any kind that the negroid race is more suited for athletic events that require speed, that is a proven fact. Nothing negative about it but that is a racist statement. It is also a proven fact that 70% of black children grow up in a one parent home. Yep another racist but true statement.
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What reasons? Also, so it would not be racist to say black men are better at sports in general? Would it be racist to say white quarterbacks are better in general?
With regards to the OP though, I'm in the middle on this. On one hand, I do believe people should be held accountable for their actions. On the other hand, something sort of makes you feel bad for people, especially when perhaps the justice wasn't done in the proper fashion.
It's like the Sterling situation with the NBA. Sterling is a terrible human. He should have been kicked out of the league a long time ago and deserves anything he gets. However, the way it went down was about as un-American as it gets and almost made me feel bad for him. It's a tough thing for me personally. Do the ends always justify the means?
The qualifications that are considered in the hiring of a head coach are very different and specific to the job as opposed to a player who is primarily given a contract based on athletic talent.
There could be racism involved. I don't really know.
I think education and socio-economic factors come into play. What does a kid go through in his life? What is his family like? How does he spend his time? What about his struggles attributed to his compe iveness in his chosen sport? Was he given tje same opportunities as someone who came from a different background?
I think if you are making generalizations based on race, you are just asking for trouble. Why do we feel the need to do that instead of treating everyone as an individual? I guess it's just easier for people, but I find it strange.
I agree, but you just admitted that when it comes to sports there is a "difference". That right there doesn't allow for what you and I know to be right, no?
Not always, but the scales need to be balanced and that's how it goes down. Been that way for a long time tbh.
Well just like racisim or stereotypes, right is right and wrong is wrong, no?
There could be racism involved. I don't really know.
I knew you;'d come around.
Talk to any cop about who makes his job harder.
You do come off as pretty naive about this.
It's entertainment at the end of the day. I don.t really see anyone being denied any opportunities. The best entertainers are going to get the work. It's like being upset that some white guy didn't get the opportunity to be James Brown.
You need a computer wiz, a fruit picker, a sprinter and a weight lifter. Up pulls a mini van, out steps a little Asian cat, a tall black guy, a powerfully built European and a Mexican named Jose. Ok who is who?
So a kicker bar in west Texas is going to have Billy Warren and His Dominos as the house band, haha!!!!!!!! Come on man.
because I don't know if there is racism involved in a hypothetical situation with no information?
Try to keep up, amigo.
The bottom line is it's ok to acknowledge we have differences, it doesn't need to be a negative but it is racist.
Try to keep up, amigo.
Contractor tells a white guy......we do prefer the Hispanic workers, they were raised out in the fields we get more production out of them. All the guy did was tell the truth but the white guy is going to say what?
There is a distinction between racism and stereotyping and unless we are talking about something specific with a certain amount of facts involved, I'm not going to generalize right and wrong.
That seems like a cop out to me. Even though the degree of importance is less, I agree, I guess I'm just a right is right and wrong is wrong. No matter how big or small the situation. If there are admitted differences, it's ok. But it's probably a bit foolish to think that doesn't play a role in things. If it plays a role in things, even sports, and denies anyone an opportunitiy at any time, it's wrong.
Now, it's easy to say the white RB who was just as good isn't done any harm by losing out in the NFL, but for someone that worked really hard they probably don't feel that way. I agree, though, it's not real oppression and there is the difference.
I disagree. I don't think that acknowledgment of differences with no negative connotations is racist.
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