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  1. #101
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    Avante, stop

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    Avante, it's racist to assume that just because someone is black they are fast. It's not racist to know that perhaps in general black men may be faster than white men, but to just assume that for every black/white person is silly. You should first ask: "who is the fastest person here".

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    I don't think he knows how to.

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    I just get tired of hicks/rednecks thinking you can't talk about our obvious differences without being cool about it.

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    It's not about talking about the differences. To me it's intent. To acknowledge something doesn't make you uncool, but to form all your opinions on it and start to develop biases does.

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    I don't think he knows how to.
    What exactly is your problem, you always seeem so hostile about everything, why?

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    I don't think (me personally) that it's fair to just dismiss certain types of possible racism because they may be smaller forms or "less important/impactful". Racism is racism to me and is wrong in any form.

    I also don't see why it's not proposterous when it comes to "white quarterbacks".
    I just don't see it. I'm not saying it doesn't exist, but if it does, I'm not aware of it.

    I don't know that black quarterbacks have been developed the same as whites. I'm not saying it's due to racism. I just don't know. Could be the same with white running backs.

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    Agreed - the whole NFL shtick was just the most common thing I could think of to illustrate my main point of perhaps minor racism vs large racism and dismissing it if does exist.

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    It's not about talking about the differences. To me it's intent. To acknowledge something doesn't make you uncool, but to form all your opinions on it and start to develop biases does.
    If you follow the NBA/NFL/Track you can't ignore what we are seeing out there. To say...the best athletes out there are Afro Americans...is simply true. And it's been that way for awhile now and that is a racist but true statement. It's also not a negative or some cut/slam to the white players.

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    But the racism on this site (Trill included) is stupid. Bunch of dummies and sad people.

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    If you follow the NBA/NFL/Track you can't ignore what we are seeing out there. To say...the best athletes out there are Afro Americans...is simply true. And it's been that way for awhile now and that is a racist but true statement. It's also not a negative or some cut/slam to the white players.
    Regardless of the formal definition, I think people call it racism when it comes down to forming all your opinions or harming people because of something. I think what you are saying isn't racist in the true sense of how people understand it. Its racist when you just start sweeping everything into one bucket and/or denying people something they deserve because of the bias.

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    Regardless of the formal definition, I think people call it racism when it comes down to forming all your opinions or harming people because of something. I think what you are saying isn't racist in the true sense of how people understand it. Its racist when you just start sweeping everything into one bucket and/or denying people something they deserve because of the bias.
    If any employer tried to only hire Asians because he was under the belief they were simply more intelligent, he'd get in trouble for being a racist. Anyone who has ever worked with Asians knows the quality of work they do and yes the intellect.

    Our employer simply wants what he perceives to be the best workers and a strong case can be made that he's right but it won't work in todays world.

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    That employer being "under the belief" is being discriminatory. Because there are plenty of smart people that can do jobs. Sometimes it comes down to connections or personality or other factors, but to just target only one group because they or may not have something is wrong.

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    That employer being "under the belief" is being discriminatory. Because there are plenty of smart people that can do jobs. Sometimes it comes down to connections or personality or other factors, but to just target only one group because they or may not have something is wrong.
    Our employer took over for his father after he retired, his father told him..."the Asains do the best work, hire Asains, they are also more reliable and take more pride in doing a good job".


    The thing is we are different and there is no need to act like we aren't. College recruiters aren't heading off to Wyoming, Utah, Montana , they are going to Florida, Texas and Cali, that's where that black speed is at.

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    I disagree with the actions in the OP, tbh..

    A huge number of White men are prominent racists online, for obvious reasons, but it doesn't bother me, at all..

    Everybody is en led to their opinion, regardless of their prejudices and biases..little- s like Mavs>Spurs are completely en led to their racist views IMO..

    There is too much fake outrage, nowadays..taking Donald Sterling's team away was ridiculous, and shaming racists is stupid, too..as a Black man, I'd rather see a racist express his opinion(he would do it online, obviously, scared to do it IRL), rather than be a fake..

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    What exactly is your problem, you always seeem so hostile about everything, why?
    I'm not being hostile about anything.

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    Didn't read the thread, but my guess is Avante said a bunch of racist things then got indignant about it when he was called a racist then posted more racist stuff.

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    Didn't read the thread, but my guess is Avante said a bunch of racist things then got indignant about it when he was called a racist then posted more racist stuff.
    You should read it. It was actually a pretty level-headed, intelligent discussion.

    IMO...The reality of life is that different races and cultures are different...for better and for worse sometimes. I wish ppl could recognize and openly embrace those differences instead of everything being labeled "racist" or prejudiced. Racism. True racism is ugly.
    Stereotypes. Bad word. Shouldn't be, but thats just me i guess. Black people and white people are different(in general). Thats the way it is. If ppl could learn to laugh at themselves, and each other instead of hating just to hate those cultural differences...this country could begin to make some progress.

    makes sense in my head. Hard to put it into words.

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    It's those like yourself that are the problem, you can't understand how it's ok to address the obvious differences, it doesn't have to be a negative at all. But it is racism.
    I don't think you understand what I am saying here. I don't think it's wrong to recognize and rationally discuss differences in cultures. I just think it is not racism until a negative judgment is applied to those differences.

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    Too bad all the chicken racists here get to post in anonymity.

    http://www.cbc.ca/m/news/canada/nort...line-1.2866643
    When I read the thread le, I was thinking the exact same thing.

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    When I read the thread le, I was thinking the exact same thing.
    I'll admit I was originally trolling with this thread, but I'm glad a somewhat intelligent discussion came out of it.

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    I disagree with the actions in the OP, tbh..

    A huge number of White men are prominent racists online, for obvious reasons, but it doesn't bother me, at all..

    Everybody is en led to their opinion, regardless of their prejudices and biases..little- s like Mavs>Spurs are completely en led to their racist views IMO..

    There is too much fake outrage, nowadays..taking Donald Sterling's team away was ridiculous, and shaming racists is stupid, too..as a Black man, I'd rather see a racist express his opinion(he would do it online, obviously, scared to do it IRL), rather than be a fake..
    I strongly disagree. If people tolerate racism, then it will continue to fester and come to be viewed as socially acceptable. It's the same reason that Christian fundamentalism or Islamic extremism thrives in certain societies--because more moderate people don't speak out against it.

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    You should read it. It was actually a pretty level-headed, intelligent discussion.

    IMO...The reality of life is that different races and cultures are different...for better and for worse sometimes. I wish ppl could recognize and openly embrace those differences instead of everything being labeled "racist" or prejudiced. Racism. True racism is ugly.
    Stereotypes. Bad word. Shouldn't be, but thats just me i guess. Black people and white people are different(in general). Thats the way it is. If ppl could learn to laugh at themselves, and each other instead of hating just to hate those cultural differences...this country could begin to make some progress.

    makes sense in my head. Hard to put it into words.
    But racism isn't about differences in culture---it's about the things we have in common but assign values to based on race/nationality.

    You're right on about it making sense in my head

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    I've never been to the welfare office but I'm sure there are poor Asians who need assistance
    most of the people on public assistance, EITC, etc in USA are white.

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    I don't think you understand what I am saying here. I don't think it's wrong to recognize and rationally discuss differences in cultures. I just think it is not racism until a negative judgment is applied to those differences.
    Like I mentioned, anytime you single anyone out or a group based only on race that is racism. It doesn't need to be a negative or a slam.

    The fastest sprinters on earth belong to the Negroid race. That is a racist statement but very true. Nothing negative about it at all.

    A reporter asks a track coach..."why do you only recruit black sprinters?" When he replies..."they make the best sprinters"...that is a racist remark which would get him in trouble.

    You make it known you prefer one race over another in anything and you will be in trouble, nobody cares if it's how things are or not.

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