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    Controversy Koolaid_Man's Avatar
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    I've sat here and watched most of you explain how we'd be better off tanking and couldn't help but to think how absurd that idea is. Why should we tank for a shot at a number five pick when we can count on a couple of them to come to us during free agency. Its stupid, and a waste of our time to have to develop these players when we can just wait until they are stars and pluck them from your roster. And its lesson of a risk too. So you guys can continue to draft... we'll continue to pluck.
    You know what's so got dam funny about the Spurs tanking in 98...they literally had Sugar in The Tank

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    can i prove that both artest and ariza signed 5 year 30 million dollar deals? yeah, i can, if you really want me to dig up the links. can i prove that odom was traded for a trade exception, and that the trade exception was traded for steve nash? yeah, i can. the lakers offered ariza a contract, he didn't sign it quick, and the lakers then went after artest. these are all facts
    From what i remember Lakers had the option to sign Ariza first, but management elected to go for Artest which obviously paid off. I didn't say anything about Odom. The Lakers just thought Ron Artest was a better player for that team, I do not beleive anyone on the Lakers even Kobe wanted to Ariza or Odom to go. Odom demanded a trade, Ariza just got unlucky, and his career went south after that.

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    From what i remember Lakers had the option to sign Ariza first, but management elected to go for Artest which obviously paid off. I didn't say anything about Odom. The Lakers just thought Ron Artest was a better player for that team, I do not beleive anyone on the Lakers even Kobe wanted to Ariza or Odom to go. Odom demanded a trade, Ariza just got unlucky, and his career went south after that.
    you asked if i could prove anything in my post. my post included odom

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    OP is obviously trolling, but what doesn't make sense is why not tank when you can still pluck at the same time? What good is sucking for a season and killing Kobe's legacy when you can tank and pluck at the same time. But Laker "fan" is pretty dumb so per parrrrrr

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    I've sat here and watched most of you explain how we'd be better off tanking and couldn't help but to think how absurd that idea is. Why should we tank for a shot at a number five pick when we can count on a couple of them to come to us during free agency. Its stupid, and a waste of our time to have to develop these players when we can just wait until they are stars and pluck them from your roster. And its lesson of a risk too. So you guys can continue to draft... we'll continue to pluck.







    laker fan are delusional if they think lebron or melo or both will come to them in 2014. Like lebron wants to spend his prime years with a TOSB kobe and a useless roster with a softass gasol. Like he wants to play with a team that gave away all their first round picks. And melo is the king of new york right now, he's making so much money and publicity there. you think he's gonna move? Knicks may suck but their situation is WAAAAAAAYYY better than the lakers. Welcome to the new CBA laker fan. The only team that doesn't give a of the new cba are the nets

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    Lakers don't need to tank to get the players they want imho, either from free agency or via a trade with the help of league's officials.

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    1ST BALLOT HOF Buddy Mignon's Avatar
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    I've sat here and watched most of you explain how we'd be better off tanking and couldn't help but to think how absurd that idea is. Why should we tank for a shot at a number five pick when we can count on a couple of them to come to us during free agency. Its stupid, and a waste of our time to have to develop these players when we can just wait until they are stars and pluck them from your roster. And its lesson of a risk too. So you guys can continue to draft... we'll continue to pluck.

  8. #33
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    Shaq left. Howard left. They traded for Gasol and Nash. I guess Peace signed willingly but outside of that what top FA has come over willingly?

    Even if Bryant comes back 100% it is not as if people are banging down the door for a chance to play with him. If he doesn't come back 100% who wants to play for TOSBryant?

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    Can you prove anything you just said except for the stats?
    He's right.

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    Being one of the legendary Sannin, as well as a former member of theS-rank criminal organisation Akatsuki, Orochimaru is an extraordinarily powerful ninja, being Kage-level in his own right. Even among the Sannin, he was the one who originally stood out for individual ability. He was considered as a child prodigy that appeared only once a generation. His skills were so great that during the time of his invasion of Konoha, the Third Hokage feared no one in the village would be able to defeat him or even fight on equal footing with him, even himself, and that Orochimaru was strong enough to take down an entire small nation on his own. Even Kakashi Hatake, one of Konoha's greatest shinobi, was filled with tremendous fear when he met him during the Chūnin Exams, and himself admitted that he wouldn't even stand a chance against his level of power. Even the Akatsuki viewed Orochimaru's abilities as a threat, initially wanting to kill him. Likewise, against fellow S-ranked criminal Sasori (who was wielding the power of the Third Kazekage), Orochimaru was able to effectively fight the latter off without fighting seriously.[28] Sasuke Uchiha,Deidara, and Suigetsu Hōzuki also stated that the former's victory over Orochimaru was only because the latter was already severely weakened prior to their confrontation, and even then, that without the Sharingan Sasuke would have lost. Due to him rarely being shown fighting, he has only displayed a limited amount of techniques, though his fighting style is very fluid and it stands to reason that in his efforts to learn all existing techniques, his array of abilities has probably become larger than any other single person and that he has vast knowledge on all forms of techniques.
    During his battle against the Third Hokage, his arms were sealed by the latter, preventing Orochimaru from forming hand signs and effectively stripping him of most of his technique arsenal. Despite this, he remained a formidable opponent, still able to hold his own against both Jiraiya (albeit greatly weakened by poison) and Tsunade simultaneously. In Part II with his hands physically restored, he was able to toy with Naruto in his three-tailed form while his body was greatly weakened. Even with the danger Naruto later imposed in his four-tailed form, Orochimaru could still battle evenly against Naruto and found great entertainment from the transformed Naruto's considerable power, later even expressed regret that he couldn't complete the battle as his body finally began to give in. Kabuto — who had enhanced his body by integrating the DNA of Team Taka (excluding Sasuke), the Sound Five, and even Orochimaru himself — stated that he was still nothing compared to Orochimaru without Sage Mode. After acquiring the Uzumaki's mask of the Shinigami, he was able to break the seal on his arms, regaining his former strength and access to his full technique arsenal.[29] While surviving the process, by possessing a new body, it is unknown what enhancements from body modifications. Despite this, he was still able to calmly fighting back the Ten-Tails in its final form.

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    Phil let it all out didn't he? Kobe's such a sociopath man.

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    How many backfired threads between kool and narutoluva combined?

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    notthewordsofonewhokneels Thread's Avatar
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    Phil let it all out didn't he? Kobe's such a sociopath man.
    You don't grab some jacks & timbers and start back down in the great Northwest at any other mental state, nor scramble from a self inflicted would be grave 5 years later and drag Pierce, pants on fire mind ya across this great nation (Obama was still takin' Marxist lessons in Chicago) and put up a back-to-back at any other mental state.

    Kobe Bryant

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    Being one of the legendary Sannin, as well as a former member of theS-rank criminal organisation Akatsuki, Orochimaru is an extraordinarily powerful ninja, being Kage-level in his own right. Even among the Sannin, he was the one who originally stood out for individual ability. He was considered as a child prodigy that appeared only once a generation. His skills were so great that during the time of his invasion of Konoha, the Third Hokage feared no one in the village would be able to defeat him or even fight on equal footing with him, even himself, and that Orochimaru was strong enough to take down an entire small nation on his own. Even Kakashi Hatake, one of Konoha's greatest shinobi, was filled with tremendous fear when he met him during the Chūnin Exams, and himself admitted that he wouldn't even stand a chance against his level of power. Even the Akatsuki viewed Orochimaru's abilities as a threat, initially wanting to kill him. Likewise, against fellow S-ranked criminal Sasori (who was wielding the power of the Third Kazekage), Orochimaru was able to effectively fight the latter off without fighting seriously.[28] Sasuke Uchiha,Deidara, and Suigetsu Hōzuki also stated that the former's victory over Orochimaru was only because the latter was already severely weakened prior to their confrontation, and even then, that without the Sharingan Sasuke would have lost. Due to him rarely being shown fighting, he has only displayed a limited amount of techniques, though his fighting style is very fluid and it stands to reason that in his efforts to learn all existing techniques, his array of abilities has probably become larger than any other single person and that he has vast knowledge on all forms of techniques.
    During his battle against the Third Hokage, his arms were sealed by the latter, preventing Orochimaru from forming hand signs and effectively stripping him of most of his technique arsenal. Despite this, he remained a formidable opponent, still able to hold his own against both Jiraiya (albeit greatly weakened by poison) and Tsunade simultaneously. In Part II with his hands physically restored, he was able to toy with Naruto in his three-tailed form while his body was greatly weakened. Even with the danger Naruto later imposed in his four-tailed form, Orochimaru could still battle evenly against Naruto and found great entertainment from the transformed Naruto's considerable power, later even expressed regret that he couldn't complete the battle as his body finally began to give in. Kabuto — who had enhanced his body by integrating the DNA of Team Taka (excluding Sasuke), the Sound Five, and even Orochimaru himself — stated that he was still nothing compared to Orochimaru without Sage Mode. After acquiring the Uzumaki's mask of the Shinigami, he was able to break the seal on his arms, regaining his former strength and access to his full technique arsenal.[29] While surviving the process, by possessing a new body, it is unknown what enhancements from body modifications. Despite this, he was still able to calmly fighting back the Ten-Tails in its final form.

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    Chillin' like a villain... TampaDude's Avatar
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    Being one of the legendary Sannin, as well as a former member of theS-rank criminal organisation Akatsuki, Orochimaru is an extraordinarily powerful ninja, being Kage-level in his own right. Even among the Sannin, he was the one who originally stood out for individual ability. He was considered as a child prodigy that appeared only once a generation. His skills were so great that during the time of his invasion of Konoha, the Third Hokage feared no one in the village would be able to defeat him or even fight on equal footing with him, even himself, and that Orochimaru was strong enough to take down an entire small nation on his own. Even Kakashi Hatake, one of Konoha's greatest shinobi, was filled with tremendous fear when he met him during the Chūnin Exams, and himself admitted that he wouldn't even stand a chance against his level of power. Even the Akatsuki viewed Orochimaru's abilities as a threat, initially wanting to kill him. Likewise, against fellow S-ranked criminal Sasori (who was wielding the power of the Third Kazekage), Orochimaru was able to effectively fight the latter off without fighting seriously.[28] Sasuke Uchiha,Deidara, and Suigetsu Hōzuki also stated that the former's victory over Orochimaru was only because the latter was already severely weakened prior to their confrontation, and even then, that without the Sharingan Sasuke would have lost. Due to him rarely being shown fighting, he has only displayed a limited amount of techniques, though his fighting style is very fluid and it stands to reason that in his efforts to learn all existing techniques, his array of abilities has probably become larger than any other single person and that he has vast knowledge on all forms of techniques.
    During his battle against the Third Hokage, his arms were sealed by the latter, preventing Orochimaru from forming hand signs and effectively stripping him of most of his technique arsenal. Despite this, he remained a formidable opponent, still able to hold his own against both Jiraiya (albeit greatly weakened by poison) and Tsunade simultaneously. In Part II with his hands physically restored, he was able to toy with Naruto in his three-tailed form while his body was greatly weakened. Even with the danger Naruto later imposed in his four-tailed form, Orochimaru could still battle evenly against Naruto and found great entertainment from the transformed Naruto's considerable power, later even expressed regret that he couldn't complete the battle as his body finally began to give in. Kabuto — who had enhanced his body by integrating the DNA of Team Taka (excluding Sasuke), the Sound Five, and even Orochimaru himself — stated that he was still nothing compared to Orochimaru without Sage Mode. After acquiring the Uzumaki's mask of the Shinigami, he was able to break the seal on his arms, regaining his former strength and access to his full technique arsenal.[29] While surviving the process, by possessing a new body, it is unknown what enhancements from body modifications. Despite this, he was still able to calmly fighting back the Ten-Tails in its final form.
    What kind of gobbling gotry did I just read?

  17. #42
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    You don't grab some jacks & timbers and start back down in the great Northwest at any other mental state, nor scramble from a self inflicted would be grave 5 years later and drag Pierce, pants on fire mind ya across this great nation (Obama was still takin' Marxist lessons in Chicago) and put up a back-to-back at any other mental state.

    Kobe Bryant
    "We've got 4 more to win, we'll do it this time."

    Tim Duncan


    And with that, the same bag who you parroted for over 3 years took your old ass to the wood shed. Now you're stuck with a 0.200 Laker team who brings festivus to this forum every other day.

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    Holy is there a more terrible poster than OP? Historic bads over and over and over...............

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    "We've got 4 more to win, we'll do it this time."

    Tim Duncan
    , he did it the time before, but, then had to give it back.

    He's light 1 on into the dust that is always the end.

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    Holy is there a more terrible poster than OP? Historic bads over and over and over...............
    You ain't no picnic, Splits. A more crabby bas does not exist.

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    You ain't no picnic, Splits. A more crabby bas does not exist.
    English?

    Speak it mother er.

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    English?

    Speak it mother er.
    You're the crabbiest bas in existence.

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    , he did it the time before, but, then had to give it back.

    He's light 1 on into the dust that is always the end.

    White Tim Duncan

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    boring is a quality
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    "We've got 4 more to win, we'll do it this time."

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    And with that, the same bag who you parroted for over 3 years took your old ass to the wood shed. Now you're stuck with a 0.200 Laker team who brings festivus to this forum every other day.

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    Grab 'em by the pussy Splits's Avatar
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    You're the crabbiest bas in existence.
    AND your nemesis. Duncan rang 5, I called out your failed schtick, and you're stuck. Live with it.

    Duncan == 6
    TOSB Kirby == 5

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