Any team looking for a backup?
I'm about ready to trade his ass. It's pointless to have a team whose floor is 7-9 and ceiling is 9-7.
I'll trade you for Based Anderson.
I love some Philbilly. My favorite QB of all time.
Finally giving up on Newton?
Allen can't get open, Gates is old and slow, terrible offensive line, their only above-average RB can't stay on the field, coach calls only basic football plays...
And the quarterback can't elevate his teammates and can always be counted on to throw a horrible pick into double or triple coverage or fumble a snap under adversity.
still, he has less to work with than most good teams
How many teams in the league can beat the Broncos/New England back to back? The Chargers have played nine games vs teams with playoff aspirations.
Rivers is one of the top 10 QB's in the league.
It's hilarious looking back to 3 years ago when Phillip said he's ecstatic Manning is in 'HIS' division now.
Even if we fluke our way into the playoffs again, we would need to beat at least one of those teams to have any chance of doing anything significant. When we can't even beat them at home with our defense on their usual December job-saving hot streak, I highly doubt we would stand a chance on the road. And an "elite" quarterback should be able to beat those teams, Rodgers certainly didn't have much trouble beating the Pats.
That Pats game was pretty close all things considered. Also, Rodgers will prolly go down as an all-time great, while Rivers is merely a Top 5 QB in the league every other year.
Rodgers was one play away from losing to the Pats.
The Chargers played one of the toughest schedules in the league, that can't be ignored. , to start off vs Arizona/Seattle, Denver twice, the Pats, the Bills/Dolphins on the road. The Ravens on the road, in...KC. That's tough.
Still, a tough schedule shouldn't be enough to turn a "franchise QB" into a scrub.
Bottom line is that the last five seasons have been 9-7, 8-8, 7-9, 9-7, and looking like 9-7 again this year, with only one (fluke) playoff appearance in that span. Not good enough to win anything significant, not bad enough for favorable draft position. At some point the band-aid needs to be ripped off and veterans like Rivers, Weddle, and Gates need to be traded to contenders, because they aren't going to win anything with the Chargers.
I'm pretty sure the Chargers finish 10-6; Niners are playing mediocre and the Chiefs are pretty ty all things considered. Need to hope the Texans beat the Steelers next week to get into the playoffs tho.
are you seriously implying Philip Rivers isn't a franchise QB?
If the Niners had Rivers we'd be a serious SB contender this season.
The Chargers need a power back, another Natrone Means.
He certainly hasn't played like one since the bye week. Granted, he's been injured, but his decision-making has regressed all the way back to that horrible 2012 season.
The lack of a "power back" isn't the problem with the offense. Even Means would have eventually been rendered useless, because our offensive coordinator has spammed the same running plays on first and second down so many times now that running the ball at all has become a waste of a down because the entire league knows it's coming. playcalling, decision-making by Rivers, Fluker turning into a bust, and the receivers' inability to get open are the offense's biggest problems.
you know the procedure, CN throws everyone under the bus except his god, LeTongue.
i think your standard for franchise QB is messed up. i dont think the standard for franchise QB should be elite NFL QB... imo having a franchise QB just means your team isn't in the market to replace their qb. guys like Matt Ryan, Joe Flacco, Russell Wilson, Eli Manning... they're not elite but they're still franchise qb's
You'd be amazed what a big back does to a defense. Now add that third and short vs third and long. There are over 20 teams in the league that would be thrilled to have Rivers. Let this guy play with a lead and not in constant passing situations and we'd see a whole other deal.
Take away playing Denver/Pats and the Chargers were 8-4, two weeks ago the Seahawks...8-4.
Yeah, that's fair. He's the franchise QB, but he's not really elite. Thing is, at age 33 with a perpetually mediocre team, it's still not really worth keeping him around.
You're missing the point as usual. The playcalling is what's really hurt the run game (as well as injuries to Woodhead and Mathews), not the lack of a Natrone Means type player. When you call the same exact running plays on first and second down every drive with zero adjustments ever, the league is going to wise up and shut it down.
If that many teams want Rivers, then we can get a boatload of picks for him. He's clearly not going to win more than 10 games a year anymore or have any deep playoff runs if he stays with the Chargers (as shown by the last five seasons), might as well start over with some new young talent.
Phillip Rivers is without question an elite QB.
Peyton Manning lost to St. Louis. Tom Brady lost to the Chiefs. Big Ben lost to.......THE JETS! Aaron Rodger lost to the Saints.
Losing to Denver/NE is no disgrace.
i don't see the benefit of parting ways with Rivers right now. they don't have better alternatives or an heir apparent in place. i'm sure you would like to have an elite QB, but so do 27 other teams
i get the notion of "wasting" years with a QB, but i just dont see how parting with rivers helps them for now or the future, unless they have a guy in place
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