Faux News comedy

[MultiTroll]

It never ends with Fox Propoganda.

Blaming Barry for the North Korean hack and cancellation of the movie.
This airhead:

hired strictly for her boneable looks and previous Repug propoganda assignments, she tried to spin that Barry should be sending in protection to the movie theaters. You know, the *get Gov't off our backs* Repug party.
What, send in troops to every individual movie theater?

Token Black chick anchor was on the panel, along with this guest chick:

[Yonivore]

I blame Sony.

I blame their IT department for not building a better firewall.

I blame their creative staff for choosing to mock a crazy dictator with nukes and the apparent ability to strike terror in Sony's management.

I do, however, believe pulling the theatrical release was the right move. Who wants to be responsible for the deaths of all those children whose Christmas Day excursion to watch Annie just happened to position them next to a screening of The Interview.

I hope it is eventually it is released on DVD so this can happen:

Human Rights Group Plans to Airdrop The Interview DVDs into North Korea

Aside for executing some appropriate response to this clear cyber attack by a foreign nation (perhaps some stuxnet variation that plays the Star Spangled Banner over an image of Kim Jong Un getting boned in the ass by an ass), I also think the President needs to make it clear to North Korea and his fellow Americans just what the consequences will be if any violence, connected to this cyber attack, is perpetrated against Americans, here or abroad.

[ChumpDumper]

So what are you saying those clear consequences should be?

[Yonivore]

So what are you saying those clear consequences should be?

I'm sorry, I don't have access to the full range of intelligence or available responses to give you a response. What do you think should happen if North Korea sponsors an act of terrorism against Americans?

I think I'd bring back directed assassinations and kill the bas . But, I'm not the President. Perhaps he'll redirect a couple of drones and take out the President Palace and a few dozen innocent bystanders. Just needs to be something, I suppose. Don't you?

[ChumpDumper]

I'm sorry, I don't have access to the full range of intelligence or available responses to give you a response. What do you think should happen if North Korea sponsors an act of terrorism against Americans?

I think I'd bring back directed assassinations and kill the bas . But, I'm not the President. Perhaps he'll redirect a couple of drones and take out the President Palace and a few dozen innocent bystanders. Just needs to be something, I suppose. Don't you?

That would be the worst response ever, I suppose.

[Yonivore]

That would be the worst response ever, I suppose.

What would be your response?

[ChumpDumper]

What would be your response?

Not one that would start a nuclear war.

[Winehole23]

Aside for executing some appropriate response to this clear cyber attack by a foreign nation...

http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidenc...-hack-is-thin/

[Spurminator]

http://www.wired.com/2014/12/evidenc...-hack-is-thin/

Great read, thanks. NK has seemed like a convenient bogeyman for all of this. Especially for the hackers.

[Yonivore]

Not one that would start a nuclear war.

Not an answer.

[Winehole23]

How is it clear this is a cyberattack by NK, Yonivore? Do you believe everything your government tells you?

[ChumpDumper]

Not an answer.

Personally, I don't think North Korea is stupid enough to do anything of the sort, so it's tough to even put a response that would start a nuclear war on the table..

I doubt most theater chains or Sony thought so either -- they're just afraid people wouldn't watch The Hobbit.

The fact you went straight to nuclear war sounds about par for the course.

[Yonivore]

How is it clear this is a cyberattack by NK, Yonivore? Do you believe everything your government tells you?

I don't know that it is clear. It seems plausible and Obama's FBI has suggested there is evidence (however thin) that NK is responsible. My suggestions were predicated on it being clear and, since I'm in absolutely no position to direct any response, I took license to be flippant, snarky, and sarcastic. So, by all means, feel free to not employ my suggested responses until you're satisfied they're the culprits...and only then, if you're comfortable do so.

[CosmicCowboy]

I totally agree with this article...

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/rea...ealm-of-stupid

[Winehole23]

This is not just now a case study in how not to react to cyber threats and a case study in how to not defend your networks, it's now also a case study in how not to respond to terrorism threats. We have just communicated to any would-be attacker that we will do whatever they want.


It is mind-boggling to me, particularly when you compare it to real things that have actually happened. Someone killed 12 people and shot another 70 people at the opening night of Batman: The Dark Knight [Rises]. They kept that movie in the theaters.

You issue an anonymous cyber threat that you do not have the capability to carry out? We pulled a movie from 18,000 theaters.

smh

[Winehole23]

more idiocy: http://www.mediaite.com/online/param...the-interview/

[ElNono]

I totally agree with this article...

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/rea...ealm-of-stupid

This is spot on. I actually happen to work with computer security (have exchanged emails with the likes of Schneier) and the whole "cyberterror/cyberattack/cyberweapon/etc" is a lot of cyberbull .

Securing your systems is what every company that values their information does every day. This happened way before 9/11, was never considered anything but an intrusion attempt or hack.

If you didn't keep up or you didn't have a competent security analyst, then it's on you.

[Yonivore]

I totally agree with this article...

http://motherboard.vice.com/read/rea...ealm-of-stupid

I don't totally agree with it but, it makes some good points.

From the article:

the ability to steal gossipy emails from a not-so-great protected computer network is not the same thing as being able to carry out physical, 9/11-style attacks in 18,000 locations simultaneously.
...
This group has not shown the capability to do that.
...
You issue an anonymous cyber threat that you do not have the capability to carry out? We pulled a movie from 18,000 theaters.

I found this a bit specious; his assertion that, just because whoever made the threat couldn't attack all 18,000 theaters, simultaneously, that they were incapable of carrying out on their threat at all. How many many theaters would need to be attacked for it to be considered a terrorist attack? How many deaths should Sony be willing to accept just so they could screen a movie on Christmas Day? I still think pulling the movie out of theaters was the right thing to do.

All the other nonsense where Sony plays the victim is just as he says, stupid. But, watching it is kind of entertaining, I must admit.

I particularly found it interesting, because of our discussion in another thread, that Sony actually had a conversation about not casting Denzel Washington in the new Equalizer movie because their international consumers are racist.

Kudos on them for ignoring the suggestion and doing it anyway, I loved the original Equalizer and look for to Washington's take on the character.

[CosmicCowboy]

uhhhh...North Koreans =/= Muslim religious fanatics

And your take on the Denzel Washington / Equalizer thing is wrong. Read it again. Nowhere did it say Sony execs had that conversation.

[Yonivore]

uhhhh...North Koreans =/= Muslim religious fanatics

Stipulating that we don't know Korea is behind it (although, you're right, they're not Muslim religious fanatics but, that doesn't make them any less crazy -- just different crazy), that wasn't my point. I just want to take issue with his contention over the scope of the threat. The hackers' threat did not necessarily have to involve all 18,000 theaters for Sony to be concerned that something might happen at one theater. Seriously, If the threat was legitimate, is the release of a movie worth the liability that brings? Sony apparently thought not. Now, I will clarify what I said earlier. I said it was the right thing to do. More precisely, I think it was a reasonable thing to do, given what they knew at the time. I was looking forward to seeing The Interview and would have probably risked going out and viewing it had they decided not to pull it from theaters.

And your take on the Denzel Washington / Equalizer thing is wrong. Read it again. Nowhere did it say Sony execs had that conversation.

Sony leak: Denzel Washington should not star in lead roles overseas because the world is 'racist'

The le of the article is NOT what was contained in the leaked e-mail but, I didn't want to be accused of trying to be less than transparent. No where that I can find do either of the parties to the e-mail suggest Denzel Washington should not be cast; just that casting him (the producer beleives) is problematic for overseas release because of all the racists.

The Oscar-winning actor was the subject of emails sent shortly after the release of his film The Equalizer, with an unnamed producer telling Sony chairman Michael Lynton that they hoped the shocking comment was not “inappropriate or provocative”.

“I am not saying The Equalizer should not have been made or that African American actors should not have been used (I personally think Denzel Washington is the best actor of his generation),” wrote the producer.

“Casting him is saying we’re okay with a double [baseball term] if the picture works. He’s reliable at the domestic [box office], safe, but has not had a huge success in years.

“I believe whenever possible the non-event pictures, extra ‘bets’, should have a large inherent upside and be made for the right price. Here there isn’t a large inherent upside.”

Despite grossing $191 million in cinemas globally, with just under half of all ticket sales coming from outside the US, the leaked emails argued that overseas takings were not good enough because of Washington’s race.

“I believe that the international motion picture audience is racist – in general pictures with an African American lead don’t play well overseas,” the producer continued.

Yeah, they did have that discussion.

It's curious the leakers didn't choose to name the produce responsible for initiating the conversation but, it was among the leaked e-mails, nonetheless.

[CosmicCowboy]

Stipulating that we don't know Korea is behind it (although, you're right, they're not Muslim religious fanatics but, that doesn't make them any less crazy -- just different crazy), that wasn't my point. I just want to take issue with his contention over the scope of the threat. The hackers' threat did not necessarily have to involve all 18,000 theaters for Sony to be concerned that something might happen at one theater. Seriously, If the threat was legitimate, is the release of a movie worth the liability that brings? Sony apparently thought not. Now, I will clarify what I said earlier. I said it was the right thing to do. More precisely, I think it was a reasonable thing to do, given what they knew at the time. I was looking forward to seeing The Interview and would have probably risked going out and viewing it had they decided not to pull it from theaters.



Sony leak: Denzel Washington should not star in lead roles overseas because the world is 'racist'

The le of the article is NOT what was contained in the leaked e-mail but, I didn't want to be accused of trying to be less than transparent. No where that I can find do either of the parties to the e-mail suggest Denzel Washington should not be cast; just that casting him (the producer beleives) is problematic for overseas release because of all the racists.


Yeah, they did have that discussion.

It's curious the leakers didn't choose to name the produce responsible for initiating the conversation but, it was among the leaked e-mails, nonetheless.

Where does it say that anonymous producer was a Sony Employee?

[Yonivore]

Wow! They're hitting on all our favorite themes today...

Next up, The LA Weekly and "White Liberal Guilt," which is morphing into "White Privilege" much like Global Cooling became Global Warming that became Global Climate Change...I guess they're just trying to be inclusive; after all, why should Liberals be the only guilty party? Except, in this case, I'm pretty sure all the significant players are Liberals.

Killing The Interview Opens Studios to Terrorist Manipulation

The movie about a talk TV crew’s CIA-initiated plot to assassinate a living state leader, in this case Kim Jong-un, is also nearly without peer—nearly.

Emily Carman, assistant professor of film and media arts at Chapman University, says Hollywood received pressure from the Chinese government in 1932 and 1933 with the releases of Shanghai Express and The Bitter Tea of General Yen, respectively.

The films featured white actors in yellowface as well as interracial relationships. “It was a racist, Eurocentric view of China,” Carman said.

Leaders threatened to block film distribution in China, but Hollywood did not back down, she said.

The Interview also hits a familiar note of insensitivity toward an Asian nation. Before that, in 2001, the Ben Stiller comedy Zoolander featured a plot about a fashion model recruited to assassinate the prime minister of Malaysia. That nation and neighboring Singapore banned its exhibition.

“Can you imagine the outcry if North Korea released, Get Obama, about the assassination of a sitting president,” asks Douglas Thomas, associate professor of communication at the USC Annenberg School for Communication and Journalism.

Why would there be? There was no outcry over the release of the 2006 American release of "Death of a President," which, amazingly the author of this piece conveniently skipped over, going all the way back to 1932 to illustrate her premise films about assassinating living state leaders. Maybe it's not as infrequent as she claims. Besides, would we even know if North Korea released a movie?

And then there's the abominable "white privilege."

“It’s amazing that this even got green-lit,” Carman adds. “Wow, nothing’s really changed. This is still a white male, Western-centric view of a small Asian nation.”

Hey, it was blessed by the administration of a President that was once mistaken for a valet...

Exclusive: Sony Emails Say State Department Blessed Kim Jong-Un Assassination in ‘The Interview’

Surely, that should assuage some of the guilt.

[Yonivore]

Where does it say that anonymous producer was a Sony Employee?

What's your point in arguing the unnamed producer who was corresponding with Sony Chairman Michael Lynton was, or was not, a Sony employee?

But, to that point, in one e-mail he says (in the context of discussing the release of a Sony Product with the Sony Chairman), "Casting him is saying we're okay with a double [baseball term] if the picture works."

I think it's reasonable to infer both, from the fact the exchange took place at all plus the writer including the recipient with the term "we're" that there is more than just a casual connection between Sony and the writer. Employee? Maybe not. Could be the Producer is under contract with Sony which, in many places and way, makes him an employee. But, again, I'm not sure why that's even relevant. the exchange took place and, it's obvious the writer believes Sony's international consumers are racist.

[CosmicCowboy]

LOL Yonnie...you are moonwalking backwards. You are the one that specifically mentioned the e-mail and it's racist implications. I simply responded to your allegations.

If anyrthing, as you speculate, SONY Execs considered that casting a black actor in the leading role was going to hurt them financially in the international market, they should be praised for going ahead and doing it anyway instead of being criticized.

[Dirk Oneanddoneski]

I don't think NK had anything to do with it , I think Rogen and Franco tried to use the hack for more publicity for the Interview and it backfired. The hack is costing those sheenywood s a ton of shekels though so I hope the rest of the movie industry is targeted as well as other Jew media outlets.