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    Are you being serious? Rape, murder, and atrocities happen in every war. Are you really that naive?

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    Are you being serious? Rape, murder, and atrocities happen in every war. Are you really that naive?
    and what happened to those guys? did you ever hear about Nuremberg Trials?

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    Maybe I misunderstood what you were trying to say, but there's no justification for raping children...

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    Both sides committed war crimes, once again, are you really that naive? Things that are happening in current wars have taken place in every war, ever.

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    There's no justification for killing people either, but guess what, that's basically how you win a war.

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    uh, we've thrown puppies off a cliff too, that doesn't mean it's ok because "happen in war"...

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    There's no justification for killing people either, but guess what, that's basically how you win a war.
    In a war there is...

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    I mean, if you call yourself the "good" guys, I suppose you do keep the higher standard, right?

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    raping children wins the war how?

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    In a war there is...
    If you're ok with killing people during war, I don't see why rape bothers you so much, tbh.

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    raping children wins the war how?
    Demoralizes enemy moral, releases stress from soldiers, etc. I'm talking about rape in general, not just child rape, but don't be naive to think it doesn't happen to whoever they capture and want to take advantage of.

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    If you're ok with killing people during war, I don't see why rape bothers you so much, tbh.
    you said it yourself, killing people wins wars... raping children, not so much...

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    Demoralizes enemy moral, releases stress from soldiers, etc. I'm talking about rape in general, not just child rape, but don't be naive to think it doesn't happen to whoever they capture and want to take advantage of.
    there's a long mile between "happens" and "it's ok because it's war"... I understand the former, the latter is reprehensible, IMO.

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    So you would rather they just kill everyone they capture? Be realistic. They're going to capture women(of all ages) and do whatever they want to them. Rape in war is as common as killing.

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    Wartime sexual violence


    Antiquity

    "Brennus and His Share of the Spoils", by Paul Jamin, 1893.


    Rape has accompanied warfare in virtually every known historical era.[83] The Greek and Roman armies reportedly engaged in war rape, which is do ented by ancient authors such as Homer, Herodotus, and Livy.[citation needed] Ancient sources held multiple, often contradictory at udes to sexual violence in warfare.[84] It has been alleged that the Bible mentions rape in the course of war multiple times: "For I will gather all the nations against Jerusalem to battle, and the city shall be taken and the houses plundered and the women taken..." Zechariah 14:2 "Their little children will be dashed to death before their eyes. Their homes will be sacked, and their wives will be taken."Isaiah 13:16 However, the Oral Torah clarifies that the relationships must be consensual. Failure to do so violates the commandment 'he should not make use of her.'[85]
    Roman military officers often used the young boys of defeated peoples for sexual intercourse. The Roman historian Tacitus noted this happening during the Revolt of the Batavi.[86]

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    War, rape, war rape, they've all gone together since the dawn of time.

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    So you would rather they just kill everyone they capture? Be realistic. They're going to capture women(of all ages) and do whatever they want to them. Rape in war is as common as killing.
    why would they have to kill? what happened with imprison? Plus, are we talking about civilians here? I understand that there will be civilian casualties in any armed conflict, but soldiers that purposely shoot and kill civilians are court-martial all the time. At least by the "good" guys.

    why would it be different with child rape?

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    Your unwillingness to accept that rape happens in every war has led us to the end of the conversation, tbh. We're just going to keep going in circles.

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    Already acknowledged a few posts ago...

    there's a long mile between "happens" and "it's ok because it's war"... I understand the former, the latter is reprehensible, IMO.

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    IMO, child rape is reprehensible all the time. No excuses or justifications. People can certainly disagree...

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    It's as ok as killing because it's war, tbh.

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    IMO, child rape is reprehensible all the time. No excuses or justifications. People can certainly disagree...
    Killing is reprehensible all the time, but it happens in war. Same as rape.

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    Uh, no. We go great lengths to differentiate between civilians and enemies in war, and we purposely try to avoid civilian casualties. Do they happen? Sure. Do we prosecute people that purposely kill civilians? Sure.

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    Killing is reprehensible all the time, but it happens in war. Same as rape.
    Wow. And you accuse Nono of being naive.

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    Wow. And you accuse Nono of being naive.
    Yeah, rape never happens in war.

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