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  1. #126
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    lol homer

    What the has Garappolo even done? How about Logan Thomas?

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    how can you call accurate someone who made a living out of throwing jump balls?
    link to where he made a living off of that? Seems like you really enjoy pulling anti-Football stuff out of your ass tbh.

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    lol homer

    What the has Garappolo even done? How about Logan Thomas?
    he has shown he is the complete package tbh. Thomas has shown he has a strong arm, which is more than Manziel.

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    As if Tebow and Young weren't known as scramblers as well. They had all the flaws you mentioned+had ridiculous throwing motions+never did as much damage as Football did through the air even in college. Finding a balance, while not guaranteed, is much more fixable than having to fix fundamental things like a throwing motion or accuracy.

    If you can't acknowledge something as simple as that there is really no reason to have a discussion with you tbh.
    tebow and young were fundamentally different from manziel and from each other

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    not sure how you can have teddy behind anybody except arguably Carr tbh

    i understand many of us here billed him as a game manager before he was drafted and we want to stick to our guns... but he's shown he has what it takes to be an NFL qb. He's been miles better than Bortles this season... are people still thinking of preseason Bortles when ranking him, tbh?

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    not sure how you can have teddy behind anybody except arguably Carr tbh

    i understand many of us here billed him as a game manager before he was drafted and we want to stick to our guns... but he's shown he has what it takes to be an NFL qb. He's been miles better than Bortles this season... are people still thinking of preseason Bortles when ranking him, tbh?
    Im talking about prospects.

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    ... ball is just like Paul and the rest of his rich asshole family that thinks that they don't have to follow anyone's rules but their own. I'm so glad he's not really a threat to become a legit NFL QB. It would be much worse if he was actually good.

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    ive been pretty hard on manziel here, and i haven't even gone into his off-field persona

    i do think this season was good for him though... if he had early success with his playmaking" i think he'd get complacent. not winning the starting gig and then stinking up the joint let him know its not going to be a cupcake ride. but if he comes back next season with similar demeanor and play, i'd cut the cord. i dont think he has enough upside to warrant a very long leash

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    OMG he was late once, he doesn't follow any rules ever!!

    You sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge tbh.

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    OMG he was late once, he doesn't follow any rules ever!!

    You sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge tbh.
    And he was busy snorting coke in bathrooms instead of learning the playbook

    And he flipped off the opposing team during a preseason game when he was trying to earn a starting job

    The rules don't apply to the Manziels. They never have. The family has had run ins with the law for decades from everything from illegal oil deals and shady business practices to drugs. They are lowlifes that get their ass covered in my city/county because of the huge good ole boy network here.

    It doesn't matter though tbh. He'll never be a starting QB and fade will into obscurity on some bench, while making hookers/blow headlines a couple of times per season until teams don't want him anymore.

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    OMG he was late once, he doesn't follow any rules ever!!

    You sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge tbh.
    Didn't he cost himself a preseason start by being late to a team meeting or something along those lines tbh?

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    Like I said you sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge. Its personal for you in that way.

    He shouldn't be late but it's a minor mistake. For you to use this as a springboard to go into how he doesn't have any rules is laughable.

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    I'm a firm believer in .....don't jump the gun, give things some time....when it comes to sports. Sooooooooo many times we see things change if given some time, well this won't be one of them. Manziel simply doesn't care enought about being an NFL QB. Oh sure he'll say what has to be said but it's real obvious he's too immature to ever be a leader of men which is a huge part of the game.

    If I'm Cleveland I'm dumping him now. Why waste anymore time on the kid?

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    Like I said you sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge. Its personal for you in that way.

    He shouldn't be late but it's a minor mistake. For you to use this as a springboard to go into how he doesn't have any rules is laughable.
    its a very minor mistake. but its especially glaring when he had some concerns coming n about how seriously he took it all... and then it manifested itself. he should have been on his "best behavior" since there were already questions about him going in. and he even ed that up

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    Like I said you sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge. Its personal for you in that way.

    He shouldn't be late but it's a minor mistake. For you to use this as a springboard to go into how he doesn't have any rules is laughable.
    Has nothing to do with grudges or anything like that. He's under a generational curse. So far he's shown no signs of breaking it.

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    I'm a firm believer in .....don't jump the gun, give things some time....when it comes to sports. Sooooooooo many times we see things change if given some time, well this won't be one of them. Manziel simply doesn't care enought about being an NFL QB. Oh sure he'll say what has to be said but it's real obvious he's too immature to ever be a leader of men which is a huge part of the game.

    If I'm Cleveland I'm dumping him now. Why waste anymore time on the kid?
    I grew up in the same area his family did. Let's just say the apple doesn't seem to have fallen far from the tree.

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    ... ball is just like Paul and the rest of his rich asshole family that thinks that they don't have to follow anyone's rules but their own. I'm so glad he's not really a threat to become a legit NFL QB. It would be much worse if he was actually good.
    Inbred was too busy sitting on his Dad's , receiving his christmas present.

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    Didn't he cost himself a preseason start by being late to a team meeting or something along those lines tbh?
    Let's not forget the snorting coke in a bathroom incident, the autograph scandal, etc.

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    Let's not forget the snorting coke in a bathroom incident, the autograph scandal, etc.
    How many lol threads will be made when Clipboard is found dead in a few years?

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    Like I said you sound like a jealous teenage girl with a grudge. Its personal for you in that way.

    He shouldn't be late but it's a minor mistake. For you to use this as a springboard to go into how he doesn't have any rules is laughable.
    Did you watch either of his two starts? Did he look like a guy who's been working his tail off to learn his position? Because to me he looked like he had no idea WTF he was doing out there.

    Manziel can't afford to screw around. He isn't Brett Favre, who goofed off early in his career but skated by because he had great natural ability. Manziel doesn't have great natural ability, at least not at this level. He's going to have to work his ass off to make it in this league and he's admitted himself he hasn't done that. He'll be out of the league in a very short time if he doesn't put his nose to the grindstone. There's very little margin for error with him.

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    Fkla is essentially defending a former alcoholic because "calm down he only had one drink"

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    late because he partied all night
    never left college
    but he was only late one time

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