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8 mil/year from the Spurs would be more than fair IMO.
He's arguably the best 3 and D player in the league and he's starting to show signs of more. He is also pretty clutch. Someone is going to offer him the max thinking he can help take them to another level.
Who's going to poach him?
8 mil/year from the Spurs would be more than fair IMO.
I think teams are starting to learn their lessons with regards to overpaying our role players expecting them to become stars. I mean, are Neal and Blair still even in the league?
Also, it's hard to justify giving someone who can't even create their own shot a max contract.
If he gets the max fair play to him, thank him for his service and wish him well on his new team.
He won't get 10 figures from the Spurs.
hes wayyyy better than alec burks for sure and that got paaaaaaaaaaaaid
He is top 5 in the league in +/- among shooting guards.
43% in 3's makes him one of the most scary weapons out there, a whole 0.5% higher than Stephen Curry.
Basically when he shoots a 3, it is worth more points than a field goal from peak Shaq. He has a super fast release too, he didn't break finals three point shooting for no reason.
^^ Neal has been the same player with Charlotte, the only difference is that they're a terrible offensive team that doesn't pass the ball..
George Hill hasn't been any different with Indiana, too..
Anyways, Green won't get the max, but he's going to get a huge deal, especially since mainstream "analysts" are beginning to recognize him(JVG calling him one of the most underrated defenders in the league, Zach Lowe has praised him a lot, Mike Breen said the same thing as JVG on Christmas IIRC, etc)..analytics regard him as a top-tier perimeter impact player, which is relevant in today's league where front offices are all becoming heavily influenced by the metrics..
The Spurs "system" is extremely overrated, just look at the drop-off from Kawhi/Green to the backup perimeter players..
Zero chance this happens.
Of course he isn't going to get max, that's silly, btw..he's going to get at least 9 per year, though IMO..
What? Spurs more than any team win at a better clip while missing key pieces. It's a testament to be in games and even win so many over the years while missing several of your top players.^^ Neal has been the same player with Charlotte, the only difference is that they're a terrible offensive team that doesn't pass the ball..
George Hill hasn't been any different with Indiana, too..
Anyways, Green won't get the max, but he's going to get a huge deal, especially since mainstream "analysts" are beginning to recognize him(JVG calling him one of the most underrated defenders in the league, Zach Lowe has praised him a lot, Mike Breen said the same thing as JVG on Christmas IIRC, etc)..analytics regard him as a top-tier perimeter impact player, which is relevant in today's league where front offices are all becoming heavily influenced by the metrics..
The Spurs "system" is extremely overrated, just look at the drop-off from Kawhi/Green to the backup perimeter players
I could see Philly throwing a big offer at him.
MCW-MCDaniels-Green-Noel-Embiid could be a VERY scary lineup both offensively and defensively
All 5 are above average shotblockers.
MCW-Mcdaniels-Green could just switch on everyone and have amazing defense.
Noel and Embiid patrolling the paint for anyone who happens to get through.
Beastly.
He should at least get a comparable deal to:
http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2386/andre-iguodala
Superior in every way and perform the same function.
4 years 40 million book it!
Many teams in the league win without key players, it happens all the time with other top teams..
Sure, the Spurs are better at it than other teams, but the "Pop's system" argument has gone way too far..if his system could win with anybody, the team would have won with Jefferson/Bogans/Mason and wouldn't see such a massive drop-off with Belinelli on the floor..this team's record without Leonard and Green speaks for itself, tbh, especially without Kawhi..
I even see casual fans on other forums making ludicrous claims like "Duncan benefits because of Pop's system", which is sad, tbh..
The system over the years has been great and allowed Pop to rest players/manage minutes with staggering results. This is one year with injuries to numerous key players and where the West is just playing great basketball at the moment. I guess you can call it overrated, but when it's the best system in basketball it just seems unecessary IMO..
44/4
Not really comparable to all these younger guys getting maxed out after their rookie contracts. Ariza's deal should be where negotiations start, I would throw max years at him tbh but only teams that are on the cusp of competing are really gonna go after him IMO. OKC, LAC, Indiana make sense as suitors.
The system is extremely overrated.
Mainstream fans think it doesn't matter who is on the floor..They would still be a really good team.
In reality, the spurs have a 0.40 record without Kawhi in the last two years....
And going down....
Every contender needs a player like him.
I agree he is not that amazing on a crappy team, but his effectiveness scales exponentially when you have more weapons on the floor. The fact he plays off the ball makes him that much better for contenders.
I don't think he needs the Spurs system at all to be effective. Can you imagine if he is playing with Durant or LeBron?
No way.
He still is, at best, a bad ball handler ( but improved; hard not to). His finishing while dribbling any length of court is still an adventure.
What he has done is to show he can step up and make a really big difference. He can more than make up for our team deficiencies with great D, huge 3 point shooting, and much better decision making than other years. His rebounding is stellar for a 3. He is integral in any playoff run. We must have him back. He has definitely earned some money.
Green is going to have to find a very particular niche team role to shine like he has with us though. But he may not care because as of right now, cash is coming his way next contract.
Marco meanwhile, has not taken advantage of the numerous chances injury to teammates has given him. Green turned the corner and took off.
Dude, I'm a huge, and I mean ing HUGE Kawhi fan, but for 's sake take that 's out your mouth. It's not funny anymore, it's just kinda creepy now.The system is extremely overrated.
Mainstream fans think it doesn't matter who is on the floor..They would still be a really good team.
In reality, the spurs have a 0.40 record without Kawhi in the last two years....
And going down....
It is not a niche role at all.
Most contenders have multiple ball handlers. You look at a team like Cavs, Rockets, Thunder, Warriors, any of the contenders in the league, being able to play off the ball and be a huge threat as a floor spacer is invaluable. So many players can not produce at all without heavy ball handling to "warm up" and "get into the groove". Not Danny. He doesn't need a ton of touches to start hitting 3's.
No.
When you have a 3 that can't handle its a niche. Guys somewhat like him, Brewer / Ariza for example, are NOT primary ball handlers, but they do have the skill. This is in imo, what really prevents Green from big bucks.
And I totally agree with your insight on his ability to hit a 3 cold.
It's quite amazing that he does not need to feel the ball much to hit his shots.
Green > Kawhi >>>>>>> Evita >>>> Benchinelli imo
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