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    Maybe because Kawhi Parker and Mills are out

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    FWIW, I'm not excusing his current season... He's been ass and it's even more troubling because of the fact that we needed more from him now what we're shorthanded.

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    I think he'll be better once he can settle into a role that doesn't require him to handle the ball so much. No question he's still a good shooter who can hit mid and long range. Problem is that injuries are forcing him to do more with the ball than he is comfortable with doing.

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    If Beli would be playing at last regular season level, we wouldn't be having this convo. The Spurs had no way of knowing beforehand Kawhi would be hurt again, Marco would be sucking up a storm and Kyle would look like a bust. Everything looks a lot clearer in hindsight, but there's still time to make a move if the Spurs feel they need to shore up any specific position...
    They should have. He hasn't played more than 66 games in a season. Belinelli is killing the team defensively, not offensively, just like he did last year. Kyle was more hype than substance anyway. Nobody expected him to be playing at all in his first season let-a-lone starting. The Spurs don't have any tradeable assets so it's unlikely they'll make a move unless a player falls into their lap.... A.K.A Boris Diaw.

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    He had a ton of easy looks and missed them this season... He was money in the bank at this time last season... There are really no excuses for those kinda misses, he's not old or hurt... He just doesn't have the touch this season yet... Might be coasting, slump, the 1st time he goes really deep in the playoffs, whatever you wanna call it. I just hope he can at least give us a lift during the regular season at some point.

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    I liked last season's Marco. He fulfilled the role that was asked of him, helped us secure HCA on a 60-win RS and he didn't get in the way of winning the LOBT. This season's Marco has been pretty terrible, tbh... then again, I don't think it's entirely fair to single him out... a bunch of guys have been playing disinterested basketball...
    not a marco fan but pretty much this

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    Defense was never his role on this team, much like Neal. It's all about his offense. We now need defense from him because Kawhi is out, but Pop already knows he's not going to get that from Marco. You're looking at this wrong if you expect anything resembling average D from him. The big problem for Marco this season is that he's not excelling at anything on offense. That's a huge problem because that and burning RS minutes is basically his role on this team.
    The defense has been much better with Kyle Anderson out there. Don't know why he's in the doghouse already.

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    They should have. He hasn't played more than 66 games in a season. Belinelli is killing the team defensively, not offensively, just like he did last year. Kyle was more hype than substance anyway. Nobody expected him to be playing at all in his first season let-a-lone starting. The Spurs don't have any tradeable assets so it's unlikely they'll make a move unless a player falls into their lap.... A.K.A Boris Diaw.
    Nah, this hand injury is the first 'repeat' injury he has, and he's a young kid. NOW, we can possibly talk about something chronic. Plus Pop rested Kawhi alongside the big 3 all the seasons he's been around, a consistent topic Kawhifans seem to complain about.

    Belli was great offensively last season during the regular season (which is really what his role is). You don't lead the league in 3pt % by being mediocre, and he was part of the top scoring second unit in the league. His defense is what it is. We couldn't afford Neal to suck for the same reason: if they're off their offensive game they're basically a liability. That's what's happening with Marco right now.

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    The defense has been much better with Kyle Anderson out there. Don't know why he's in the doghouse already.
    Pop gave him a chance the other day, but Kyle screwed up repeatedly. It's difficult with rooks, you can't blame them for being a bit lost here or there, but you also want to teach them. It's clear that if Marco keeps sucking and Kawhi is still out, Kyle will get more chances...

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    Im concerned, there will be a true Home Alone 3? Dumb and Dumber To happened...

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    They should have. He hasn't played more than 66 games in a season. Belinelli is killing the team defensively, not offensively, just like he did last year. Kyle was more hype than substance anyway. Nobody expected him to be playing at all in his first season let-a-lone starting. The Spurs don't have any tradeable assets so it's unlikely they'll make a move unless a player falls into their lap.... A.K.A Boris Diaw.
    Actually, there is posters here who thought he'd get court time and play in the rotation. I wasn't one of them. I wanted the Spurs to draft an athletic SF that can play defense.

    People thought Anderson was going to be a young Diaw, but like I said to them, a young Diaw was 10 times more athletic than Kyle.

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    Actually, there is posters here who thought he'd get court time and play in the rotation. I wasn't one of them. I wanted the Spurs to draft an athletic SF that can play defense.

    People thought Anderson was going to be a young Diaw, but like I said to them, a young Diaw was 10 times more athletic than Kyle.
    I would have taken a young athletic wing over a young plopper ten times out of ten times. Maybe he'll turn out to be the next Magic or a serviceable back up one day, only time will tell. Unless he gets dramatically better on defense, he'll have trouble sticking around in this league long term.
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    Front office has really sucked at free agency the past two years:

    2013 MLE additions:
    Marco Belinelli
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    2014 MLE additions:
    nobody

    Marco might be the worst wing player I've ever seen seen suit up for the Spurs. Makes RJ and Udoka look like good players.

    Uh they resigned their free agents. Another pocket protector basement dwelling Internet troll piece

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    Actually, there is posters here who thought he'd get court time and play in the rotation. I wasn't one of them. I wanted the Spurs to draft an athletic SF that can play defense.

    People thought Anderson was going to be a young Diaw, but like I said to them, a young Diaw was 10 times more athletic than Kyle.
    Wasn't a fan of the Anderson selection but it's a bit rash to expect instant production from a 21 year old rookie. Spurs typically don't draft high impact rookies since they're always picking so low. Joseph, for example, was a similarly terrible rookie - 2 ppg on 31% with a 6.9 PER. He's now a pretty decent player.

    Anderson shouldn't have been expected to fill in for Kawhi - injury spells are when the backup vets are supposed to step up and help carry the load. That was Marco's job and he's failed spectacularly at it. on offense, playmaking nonexistent(forcing Manu to do too much work), defense among the worst in the league. Leonard has a history with injuries. The front office should have expected this and brought in a backup wing with the MLE instead of expecting a low IQ, fatass Italian and a rookie to be more than adequate backups for Kawhi.

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    Uh they resigned their free agents. Another pocket protector basement dwelling Internet troll piece
    lol

    Ayers is a better bigger Malik Rose. Been saying this for a while. Really really excited about this kid. When Diaw goes back to soft offensively, I'd play him down the stretch in smaller situations. Great rebounder.

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    ^^ my , put a condom on, tbh..

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    When the machine is running properly, Marco will spread the floor and he can run the break. He came in and fit in rather well right away, despite his obvious defensive shortcomings. Matt Bonner is not going to be around, and getting the paint open is going to be hard. Tony is our weapon in the paint, but we have to get guys out of there to open it up. Marco and Danny can do that, but we have to have all our guys to make it work. Spurs don't do anything with half a squad, maybe just put up a decent effort. The Finals last year should have shown everyone how valuable the team is as a team, not as a big 3 or anything of the sort. Danny Green was big, Patty was big, Manu was big (in some games), and there were guys who contributed that most teams wouldn't even have in the rotation during that time of the season.

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    Belli is just playing above his role right now. Once he's back in a stricter off-the-bench shooter role who can make some dribble pull-ups on run-outs, and he's guarding bench players, he won't look as bad.

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    I think peeps need to be prepared for the probability of his re-signing, especially if Manu rolls off this year.

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    Bonner, Belinelli...they are regular season minutes eaters and three point specialist with league reputations for the latter. Both are getting more time with all the injuries. Belinelli seems to be suffering from Championship Hangover more than any other Spur. I'm not too worried about either of them. They will be racking up "DNP CD" or spot minutes come playoff time. To have guys like that at the middle/end of your bench is a good thing. Offensively, if they are in the game, the opposing team has to account for them.

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    So just to be clear, Beli, who was on the court for a total of 6 minutes in Game 3, was responsible for the erosion of a 25 point lead from the midpoint of the 2nd quarter to the end of the 3rd quarter? Where he also hit a 3 point shot in that span?

    K.
    when Marco came in the game, Miami went on a 8-0 run, then he hit his "heroic" 3

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    I love how people here say things like "the FO should have signed an athletic SF in the off season," as if they didn't recognize that. Do you honestly think they didn't try? There's no way Belinelli was their first choice-- he was what was available. Anyone on the internet can point to a free agent and say "that's the guy we should sign." It's a bit different in the real world. Guys want to play in certain cities, guys have wives who want/don't want to be in certain places, guys want to be guaranteed minutes, want bigger contracts, etc., etc. Jason Kidd turned down a max contract from the Spurs in his prime reportedly because his wife wanted to stay in the New York area to work on her career. Anyone who knows basketball could see that going to San Antonio would have been the best decision for Kidd, but it didn't happen. And, not surprisingly, he and his wife are now divorced. But you can't say the FO was stupid because they didn't sign Jason Kidd. That's on him. And it's the same with Kyle Korver, Josh McRoberts, etc., etc.

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    I love how people here say things like "the FO should have signed an athletic SF in the off season," as if they didn't recognize that. Do you honestly think they didn't try? There's no way Belinelli was their first choice-- he was what was available. Anyone on the internet can point to a free agent and say "that's the guy we should sign." It's a bit different in the real world. Guys want to play in certain cities, guys have wives who want/don't want to be in certain places, guys want to be guaranteed minutes, want bigger contracts, etc., etc. Jason Kidd turned down a max contract from the Spurs in his prime reportedly because his wife wanted to stay in the New York area to work on her career. Anyone who knows basketball could see that going to San Antonio would have been the best decision for Kidd, but it didn't happen. And, not surprisingly, he and his wife are now divorced. But you can't say the FO was stupid because they didn't sign Jason Kidd. That's on him. And it's the same with Kyle Korver, Josh McRoberts, etc., etc.
    This is what a lot of fans seem to discount when comparing team successes. Not all teams have the pick of the litter during signings. Big name free agents transform teams every year, except in smaller markets like San Antonio where big names almost never sign. In these cities, success has to be grown. These teams must have a system in place to not only find raw talent, but to develop and retain it. There's only one small market team that's been able to do that with any regularity. So when fans of teams like the Lakers and such try to compare results, they need to consider that available talent isn't always in the draft. As far as I recall, the last big name free agent in SA was Terry mings and he wasn't that big.

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    I donīt like the guy, yet iīll tell you why.
    Tim Duncan, Boris Diaw, Manu Ginobili, Marco Belinelli those are the only players in our team that can either create their shot or an assist that is not really there.
    All other need either to be set up to score or have a scheme ran for them to get the assist.
    Still donīt like the guy because is the worst defender the Spurs have, and virtually any player does to him what he does for us.

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    He was nowhere near this bad last year. WTF happened.
    You're right, the first half of last year especially he was scorching, shooting 50% from 3 and people were rambling on about him being the heir to Manu. He didn't perform as well in the second half of the year, and (with a few exceptions) disappeared in the playoffs. But he ate up a lot minutes in the regular season, which I'm fine with. That's his job.

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