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    http://guardianlv.com/2013/09/incred...4EVsS8GKc8H.99

    Darwin Quote
    because of the notorious imperfection of the ancient fossil record, no-one has been able to accurately measure rates of evolution during this critical interval, often called evolution’s Big Bang.”
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

    Etymology
    English astronomer Fred Hoyle is credited with coining the term "Big Bang" during a 1949 BBC radio broadcast.


    Charles Robert Darwin, FRS (/ˈdɑrwɪn/;[1] 12 February 1809 – 19 April 1882
    Tell me again how Darwin said that?


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    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang

    Etymology
    English astronomer Fred Hoyle is credited with coining the term "Big Bang" during a 1949 BBC radio broadcast.
    It shows how desperate you Evolutionist are to find any crack in a quote to maybe save face in a topic your getting your ass's severely handed to yourselves to high five each other when you spot any small detail or misquote.

    An educated person can see the point made was obvious Darwin's stance on Creation and how live came about.

    If you need to cling this one misquote to have an excuse to dodge the hard questions then by all means go for it I'm sure many with an average IQ can figure out what's being said here.

    It amounts to saying Tesla supported wireless back in the 1800s

    In 1891, Nikola Tesla gave a lecture for the members of the American Ins ute of Electrical Engineers in New York City, where he made a striking demonstration. In each hand he held a gas discharge tube, an early version of the modern fluorescent bulb. The tubes were not connected to any wires, but nonetheless they glowed brightly during his demonstration. Tesla explained to the awestruck attendees that the electricity was being transmitted through the air by the pair of metal sheets which sandwiched the stage. He went on to speculate how one might increase the scale of this effect to transmit wireless power and information over a broad area, perhaps even the entire Earth. As was often the case, Tesla's audience was engrossed but bewildered.
    The term wireless aka WiFi commercially used at least as early as August 1999 was coined by a brand-consulting firm called Interbrand Corporation.
    Does it really matter when or who coined a certain word?

    It does to someone who is losing a debate in your case its one of the few reasons to celebrate as you dance around your single wide trailer chanting "I got mouse" I got mouse" well celebrate all you want when your done the hard questions in this topic will still be waiting for you and from the looks of your desperate replies they will continue to go unanswered.

    And your poor attempt to publicly ridicule people is why I avoid debating you all together.


    Tell me again how Darwin said that?

    The history of the Big Bang theory began with the Big Bang's development from observations and theoretical considerations. Much of the theoretical work in cosmology now involves extensions and refinements to the basic Big Bang model.The description of a universe that expanded and contracted in a cyclic manner was first published in 1791 by Erasmus Darwin.

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    That is the Big Bang as a cycle of expansions and contractions. Different than the Big Bang you are so adamantly against

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    That is the Big Bang as a cycle of expansions and contractions. Different than the Big Bang you are so adamantly against
    It's Big Bang it's before the dates RandomLie posted and it has Darwin.


    Stop trying to split hairs so you can keep stalling on answering the original topic trust me one RandomGuy in any topic is enough we don't need another.

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    It's Big Bang it's before the dates RandomLie posted and it has Darwin.


    Stop trying to split hairs so you can keep stalling on answering the original topic trust me one RandomGuy in any topic is enough we don't need another.
    That's Erasmus darwin, not Charles, and it's a different concept than the Big Bang we know of today

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    Link posted above ^^^ by Cry Havoc in post #43.

    The theories of evolution and the Big Bang are real and God is not “a magician with a magic wand”, Pope Francis has declared.

    Speaking at the Pontifical Academy of Sciences, the Pope made comments which experts said put an end to the “pseudo theories” of creationism and intelligent design that some argue were encouraged by his predecessor, Benedict XVI.

    Francis explained that both scientific theories were not incompatible with the existence of a creator – arguing instead that they “require it”.

    “When we read about Creation in Genesis, we run the risk of imagining God was a magician, with a magic wand able to do everything. But that is not so,” Francis said.

    He added: “He created human beings and let them develop according to the internal laws that he gave to each one so they would reach their fulfilment.

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    the pope exorcising this thread of dumbasses

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    That's Erasmus darwin, not Charles

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    the pope exorcising this thread of dumbasses
    Your sucking the Head Pedos exorcises .
    That dumbass has zero credibility.

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    So who created your creator?
    God exists in timeless eternity

    How does God acting before time began get around the problem of God's creation? There are two possible interpretations of these verses. One is that God exists outside of time. Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we naturally assume that this is the only way in which any kind of existence can function. However, the premise is false. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created, but, in fact, created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.

    God exists in multiple dimensions of time

    The second interpretation is that God exists in more than one dimension of time. Things that exist in one dimension of time are restricted to time's arrow and are confined to cause and effect. However, two dimensions of time form a plane of time, which has no beginning and no end and is not restricted to any single direction. A being that exists in at least two dimensions of time can travel anywhere in time and yet never had a beginning, since a plane of time has no starting point. Either interpretation leads one to the conclusion that God has no need of having been created.
    Why can't the universe be eternal?

    The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal. This fact presented a big dilemma for atheists, since a non-eternal universe implied that it must have been caused. Maybe Genesis 1:1 was correct! Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempts to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters.2 Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a subs ute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe.

    What does science say about time?

    When Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extended the equations for general relativity to include space and time, the results showed that time has a beginning - at the moment of creation (i.e., the Big Bang).3 In fact, if you examine university websites, you will find that many professors make such a claim - that the universe had a beginning and that this beginning marked the beginning of time (see The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning). Such assertions support the Bible's claim that time began at the creation of the universe.
    Conclusion

    God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).

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    Your sucking the Head Pedos exorcises .
    That dumbass has zero credibility.

    other than being responsible for the spiritual well being of a billion people. you should be just as concerned with what he says as catholics are, tbh. for your own well being.

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    Your sucking the Head Pedos exorcises .
    That dumbass has zero credibility.
    Why are you struggling with evolution being compatible with creation?

    Are you a six day Bible literalist?

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    Why are you struggling with evolution being compatible with creation?

    Are you a six day Bible literalist?
    1. Time constraints. Can explain later. But i do not believe in God created X mico org and it evolved.

    2. Not a 6 day bible literalist. Relative. "Back in my day." "In the day of the Spurs Champs era". "Back in the horse and buggy days".

    "Day can be a term". I do not believe they were 6 literal 24 hour days.

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    "Day can be a term". I do not believe they were 6 literal 24 hour days.
    Well yeah. That's what Christians/Jews that understand evolution believe too.

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    God exists in timeless eternity

    How does God acting before time began get around the problem of God's creation? There are two possible interpretations of these verses. One is that God exists outside of time. Since we live in a universe of cause and effect, we naturally assume that this is the only way in which any kind of existence can function. However, the premise is false. Without the dimension of time, there is no cause and effect, and all things that could exist in such a realm would have no need of being caused, but would have always existed. Therefore, God has no need of being created, but, in fact, created the time dimension of our universe specifically for a reason - so that cause and effect would exist for us. However, since God created time, cause and effect would never apply to His existence.

    God exists in multiple dimensions of time

    The second interpretation is that God exists in more than one dimension of time. Things that exist in one dimension of time are restricted to time's arrow and are confined to cause and effect. However, two dimensions of time form a plane of time, which has no beginning and no end and is not restricted to any single direction. A being that exists in at least two dimensions of time can travel anywhere in time and yet never had a beginning, since a plane of time has no starting point. Either interpretation leads one to the conclusion that God has no need of having been created.
    Why can't the universe be eternal?

    The idea that God can be eternal leads us to the idea that maybe the universe is eternal, and, therefore, God doesn't need to exist at all. Actually, this was the prevalent belief of atheists before the observational data of the 20th century strongly refuted the idea that the universe was eternal. This fact presented a big dilemma for atheists, since a non-eternal universe implied that it must have been caused. Maybe Genesis 1:1 was correct! Not to be dismayed by the facts, atheists have invented some metaphysical "science" that attempts to explain away the existence of God. Hence, most atheistic cosmologists believe that we see only the visible part of a much larger "multiverse" that randomly spews out universes with different physical parameters.2 Since there is no evidence supporting this idea (nor can there be, according to the laws of the universe), it is really just a subs ute "god" for atheists. And, since this "god" is non-intelligent by definition, it requires a complex hypothesis, which would be ruled out if we use Occam's razor, which states that one should use the simplest logical explanation for any phenomenon. Purposeful intelligent design of the universe makes much more sense, especially based upon what we know about the design of the universe.

    What does science say about time?

    When Stephen Hawking, George Ellis, and Roger Penrose extended the equations for general relativity to include space and time, the results showed that time has a beginning - at the moment of creation (i.e., the Big Bang).3 In fact, if you examine university websites, you will find that many professors make such a claim - that the universe had a beginning and that this beginning marked the beginning of time (see The Universe is Not Eternal, But Had A Beginning). Such assertions support the Bible's claim that time began at the creation of the universe.
    Conclusion

    God has no need to have been created, since He exists either outside time (where cause and effect do not operate) or within multiple dimensions of time (such that there is no beginning of God's plane of time). Hence God is eternal, having never been created. Although it is possible that the universe itself is eternal, eliminating the need for its creation, observational evidence contradicts this hypothesis, since the universe began to exist a finite ~13.8 billion years ago. The only possible escape for the atheist is the invention of a kind of super universe, which can never be confirmed experimentally (hence it is metaphysical in nature, and not scientific).
    Actually, there is a theory about what was around before the big bang -- so your cut and paste is inaccurate.

    Big bang theory can fit into a timeline of infinity just as easily as magic Jesus.

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    Actually, there is a theory about what was around before the big bang -- so your cut and paste is inaccurate.

    Big bang theory can fit into a timeline of infinity just as easily as magic Jesus.

    Really? LOL is that the best you can come up with to my Copy Pasta. LOL I see you big dawg...on the run.

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    Really? LOL is that the best you can come up with to my Copy Pasta. LOL I see you big dawg...on the run.
    What more is needed?

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    Figures the Google certified scientist can only post a link.

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    Have any of you religionists/IDers/creationist read anything about quantum theory, mechanics?

    EVERY attack, experiment to disprove quantum theory has failed, which, like biological evolution, makes is an extremely credible "theory", both for its explanatory and predictive powers, certainly versus the fantasies of naive Bible humpers, IDers, creationists.

    This is a pretty good book as "popularizer" of quantum theory and its history, but the le is misleading since it really doesn't address consciousness.

    Quantum Enigma: Physics Encounters Consciousness

    http://www.amazon.com/Quantum-Enigma...+consciousness




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    Figures the Google certified scientist can only post a link.
    i find it highly unlikely that you're prepared to engage me or anyone else on this subject in any meaningful or productive fashion.

    But by all means, prove me wrong.

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    Don't underestimate the Maiar

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    [SIZE=3][FONT=arial]quantum theory, mechanics?

    EVERY attack, experiment to disprove quantum theory has failed, which, like biological evolution, makes is an extremely credible "theory", both for its explanatory and predictive powers, certainly versus the fantasies of naive Bible humpers, IDers, creationists.

    This is a pretty good book as "popularizer" of quantum theory and its history, but the le is misleading since it really doesn't address consciousness.

    Does your book have proof man Evolved from a snail?

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    Does your book have proof man Evolved from a snail?
    no, a book on quantum mechanics doesn't address biology. It does talk about Schrodinger's cat, the dead one, the live one, superposed, which aren't there until you observe them. LOL

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