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    American cars are also bad. But, they're still cheaper to maintain.

    Asia is still the winner. Although I would not call The Spurs a Lexus LS400, either. Too luxurious. I would go with a standard transmission Toyota pickup. Under-rated, don't get a second look in traffic, inexpensive, reliable, put in the work, and run for 20 years while carrying that load. Also, made in San Antonio, for an added bonus.

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    Manu is a Toyota, since he always turns over
    Good one!

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    I heard newer lexuses suck too. what years is urs nig?
    2006... not planning on changing it anytime soon...

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    Manu is a Toyota, since he always turns over


    Better than crash and burn Chris 'tesla' Paul...

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    TP whoring out in the backseat

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    2006... not planning on changing it anytime soon...
    good choice. used to love fast german sportscars now I love older reliable cars tbh I'm too old to waste my life away in a car dealer

    Im riding my LS till the wheels fall off

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    good choice. used to love fast german sportscars now I love older reliable cars tbh I'm too old to waste my life away in a car dealer

    Im riding my LS till the wheels fall off
    German cars are good too. My old 300E had over 200k miles and refused to die. Ended up donating it to charity once the battery died. My associate also has a pair of 911s, solid cars, but like you said, I rather have the comfort at this point...

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    German cars are good too. ..
    Are good too?

    Duh, they are the best

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    Are good too?

    Duh, they are the best
    They make some cheap ass nowadays too, tbh..

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    Like the Spurs with Tim, Audi hit the jackpot with the Q7 back in 2005. They're still selling this SUV and it comes with an insane diesel motor. The V8 is like 800 Nm of torque and the V12 is over 1000 Nm.

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    Audis are the least reliable of them Eurocars IMO never touch em

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    Evita Ginobili is the DSC Off button

    Dynamic Stability Control (DSC) helps to minimize the loss of control. According to Insurance Ins ute for Highway Safety and the U.S. National Highway Traffic Safety Administration, one-third of fatal accidents could be prevented by the use of the technology


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    The refs are traffic cops, helping the spurs getting on time to their destination

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    Spurs = Volvo

    Boxy, but good.

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    And the Lakers are the freeway that go swept upon by the Spursmobile

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    hmm... Spurs would probably be well equipped Camry, or like an 06 Acura RL

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    hmm... Spurs would probably be well equipped Camry, or like an 06 Acura RL
    Acuras are notorious for their niggles tbh.

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    The refs are traffic cops, helping the spurs getting on time to their destination
    More like the construction crew leading them to a detour right off a cliff.

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    The Spurs are the Nissan GTR or the new Vette. Faster and better handling than most supercars while costing far less because they are worth more than the sum of their parts.

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    Audis are the least reliable of them Eurocars IMO never touch em
    That is truth. Audis? Volvos? 200k miles? It's almost like none of these people have ever seen a REALLY reliable car. , even a Hyundai might get you close to 200k these days.

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    Acuras are notorious for their niggles tbh.
    They're still above industry average.


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    Hyundai's even worse than Audi according to that graph. Not surprising. They've never been known for their reliability.

    I think Mercedes and Cadillac surprised me the most. They've stepped up their game.

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    Hyundai's even worse than Audi according to that graph. Not surprising. They've never been known for their reliability.

    I think Mercedes and Cadillac surprised me the most. They've stepped up their game.
    Yes. That is my point. Hyundais are notorious pieces of , and you STILL may get 200k out of one if you're lucky. So, you had better get 200k out of your other car that costs 2+ times as much, initially, often has to be repaired at the dealer, and has Euro electrical systems and expensive replacement parts along the way to that 200k.

    I am also surprised by Buick, Lincoln, and Cadillac on that list. (Not Mercedes. If you pay an exhorbitant price, you should get something for it. Economically speaking, that increase in initial and total cost doesn't pan out. They should have Lexus' spot in reliability for those price tags, initially, and along the way...) I am a little suspect of how they arrive at their numbers, though. That Lexus number seems like it's in about the right position, but too extreme.

    But, 5/10 best are Japanese.

    An Accord or Camry, Corolla or Civic, are just about the best total cost per mile you can get. After that, a lot of it is vanity and luxury. That stuff gets really expensive to maintain.

    I saw a $4500 bill from the dealer on a Lexus that wouldn't open it's trunk correctly.

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    Yes. That is my point. Hyundais are notorious pieces of , and you STILL may get 200k out of one if you're lucky. So, you had better get 200k out of your other car that costs 2+ times as much, initially, often has to be repaired at the dealer, and has Euro electrical systems and expensive replacement parts along the way to that 200k.

    I am also surprised by Buick, Lincoln, and Cadillac on that list. (Not Mercedes. If you pay an exhorbitant price, you should get something for it. Economically speaking, that increase in initial and total cost doesn't pan out. They should have Lexus' spot in reliability for those price tags, initially, and along the way...) I am a little suspect of how they arrive at their numbers, though. That Lexus number seems like it's in about the right position, but too extreme.

    But, 5/10 best are Japanese.

    An Accord or Camry, Corolla or Civic, are just about the best total cost per mile you can get. After that, a lot of it is vanity and luxury. That stuff gets really expensive to maintain.

    I saw a $4500 bill from the dealer on a Lexus that wouldn't open it's trunk correctly.
    I've just had an awful experience with Mercedes so I'm probably biased. We purchased a brand new 1995 E320 back in '95 and it gave is nothing but trouble. $900 here. $1200 there. We paid several thousand for non-maintenance electrical issues over 11 years of ownership which is unacceptable in my opinion. I have heard that Mercedes nowadays are relatively reliable.

    In hindsight I learned that the '95 E320 was notorious for unreliability which seems quite odd to me. 1995 was the last year of that particular E series model before the refresh to the "rounded"-style headlights. You'd think the '95 E series would be more reliable than the '94, '93, etc. E series.

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    They're still above industry average.

    Lexus at 68. What?

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