Where did you hear Kawhi has stuff "floating around in there"? When did Pop say that?
Kawhi felt he could return a couple of games ago, tbh. This is just cautious POP - not giving a about standings as long as we're still in the playoffs and making sure the guy doesn't re-injure himself. He knows if we get KL back this year and Enrique full strength, we're still the best so as long as we make the playoffs there is NO FEAR whatsoever. NO FEAR. book it.
Where did you hear that? Why did the commentators say today that he could still be out for a while?
This misinformation is getting really ridiculous from the Spurs.
It's my recollection Kawhi tweeted that he would be good a couple games ago, tbh. That's straight from the injured dude. If he feels good, that means he can grip a ball and play. All the rest is just precaution.
Your damn right, and it sounds like he could be out alot longer. Get the damn surgery if he is out extended time and just get it over with and stop beating around the bush. If it were that serious then they would tell him to get surgery already correct? That instead of just messing around and saying sooner or later b.s. crap. I am sick of it as you are.
If Kawhi thinks he can play and be effective now, the only thing holding him back is the chance he might worsen the injury and the Spurs being conservative in that respect. A player says he can play, he can play. I haven't heard anything new from Kawhi saying he's not ready. Last thing was, he's ready to go but Pop is blocking that for the time being...
He was clapping on the bench tonight. He can't dribble, catch, or shoot but thank goodness he can still clap.
They say that the good thing is he can't injure himself more. It's just a tolerance thing now.
He always keeps an extra reservoir of clap, just in case the team needs it.
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Broken hand and Detached retina ?
If it is a detached Retina it needs surgery to fix right away, doubt he had that and still has it that long or else he would not be seeing right now out of that eye. Broken hand no clue, if it's not broken something bad is wrong with it to keep him out this long and the distant future. I am worried as you all are, just wish there would be some good news soon but not expecting it to be honest.
Pop was quoted as saying it will be 'later rather than sooner' at Pounding The Rock. He also said he was expecting TP back before Kawhi. So one step forward and two steps back.
I'm with pop on this. I'd rather be very cautious in letting him come back than bring him back and he reinforces himself. Tony and Kawhi both said they could play last time they came back and both of them re-aggravated their injuries
This is ridiculous. If you people dont trust Pop after last year you are dumber than i thought you were. You sit here and scour every ty website for an answer when we all know Pop will bring him back when its time and he wont tell anyone . Jesus ing christ go rub one out or something.
Do not worry about Kwany, he will be fine soon. We need him as we need Tony as well.. This is just the regular season so they must take all their time to recover
Sometime in the last couple of weeks. It was quoted in the local newspaper. Pop referred to it as 'divots or something' - saying he didn't know. I also saw the tape from the interview on the local TV sports coverage. NBC station. It was one of those "before or after" game pressers. Don't remember exactly when. But I remember it distinctly, and I remember thinking at the time "How does he get over something like that and won't it get hurt every time he gets hit in the regular season and swell up afterwards.
Given the things we've heard like the doctor hasn't seen Kawhi's type of injury before, Kawhi cannot palm the ball, and Kawhi is not wearing a splint/cast, I'm guessing the bolded part is the type of injury Kawhi has. They are probably just giving it time and hoping surgery won't be needed. Not goodHand:
The small joints of the fingers (PIP and DIP joints) are naturally very stable and rarely need surgery unless there is also a fracture (see bone injuries). If very sore or unstable immobilisation in a splint or plaster initially full time for up to 2 weeks and then on and off for about 4 weeks is usually enough.
The larger finger joints (MP joints - at the junction of the fingers and palm) are naturally less stable so more dependent upon their ligament supports. There is controversy over their treatment but research we have undertaken has shown that most of these injuries do very well with strapping to the neighbouring finger for 3-6 weeks and free movement from there.
The end joint of the thumb (IP joint) is like the small joints of the fingers and can be treated the same way with initial full-time support and then part-time support up to about 4 weeks from injury.
The middle joint of the thumb (MP joint - at the junction of the thumb and palm) has important ligaments on both sides (the radial – outer side, and the ulnar – inner side). Because of local differences in the alignment of the soft tissues the radial (outer) ligament tears are treated differently to those on the inner side:
The outer ligament tears almost all heal well with 4 weeks of full time protection, typically in a lightweight cast. The inner ligaments often do not heal well without surgery unless there is a small local fracture of the bone where the ligament had attached. The injuries with fractures can usually be treated with 4 weeks of full time immobilisation in a lightweight cast. The injuries with no fracture usually need open surgery to confirm the diagnosis and perform a repair. This is usually supported in a plaster or splint for about 4 weeks.
The inner ligament tears would also heal as well but the tendon of another muscle can often get in the way of the ends of the healing ligament joining together. This leads to considerable weakness in the thumb. Because of this open (surgical) assessment of the ligament is recommended, usually with repair of the tear. The tear may be repaired in a variety of ways including s ching to the local soft tissues or bone (thumb proximal phalanx) or fixing it with s ches connected to anchors in the bone. Depending upon the severity of the repair the MP joint will be supported. This is almost always with a a lightweight cast or splint for 4 weeks and sometimes with a wire placed across the joint at the time of surgery. The wire is removed in the outpatient’s clinic after 4 weeks or so.
The ligaments holding bottom (near) joint of the thumb (CMC joint) are very important in stabilising the joint to ensure normal function and prevent risks of long-term arthritis. Injuries at this joint are usually associated with small fracture of the base of the thumb metacarpal bone known as a Bennett’s fracture (see fracture handbook). Rarely there is a true ligament injury with no bone injury. The treatment of both injuries is the same. The joint needs to be held reduced for 5-6 weeks. This cannot be done successfully in plaster. Formal surgical reduction and stabilisation with a wire under a local (sometimes general) anaesthetic is needed. The one or two wires are supported in a lightweight cast for 5-6 weeks when the wire(s) are removed in the outpatient’s clinic.
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As far as Kawhi thinking he'll be ready soon...
Ligament injuries are often obvious because of local pain and swelling. The severity can easily be overlooked. We see many patients who come several weeks or months down the line from injury who had not appreciated the severity of the problem. At the later stages there is often less pain but instability i.e. excess/abnormal movement in the local joint.
Since he is not wearing a splint/cast it is also possible that Kawhi has a tendon injury which is not good news either (12 weeks rest ouch). However this is not my diagnosis as a professional online speculator.If the muscle/tendon injuries are partial (incomplete) then rest and supervised movement are often sufficient for a very good recovery. The muscle/tendon needs to be protected for at least 6 weeks and as much as 12 weeks for heavy activities. If the tear or cut is complete than in most cases surgery would be recommended otherwise there will be significant weakness and possibly disability.
Surgery is performed under anaesthetic in an operating theatre. For injuries in the hand and fingers surgery can often be performed under local anaesthetic. Injuries further up the arm and in children typically require a general anaesthetic as do extensive i.e. multiple tendon injuries. Muscle repair is difficult as the tissues do not hold s ches (sutures) well. The repairs are therefore not very robust and need protection typically for 4-6 weeks initially and for 12 weeks for heavy activities. Tendon repairs are usually more robust but tendons heal more slowly and so again need protection. However, they also tend to stick down to local tissues, so they need to be moved early, starting within days of the repair. This movement needs to be carefully controlled and protected. This is performed protected by a splint and carefully supervised by the treating team, especially the Hand therapists.
Injuries to the bending tendons of the fingers are particularly prone to failure or to sticking down because the track in which they run is so narrow. The period of post-operative therapy requires particularly close supervision for the first 5 weeks and care for up to 12 weeks.
Yep, the rare Bennet's fracture without bone injury, only ligament damage.
Season ending tbhSymptoms
How is a Bennett’s fracture diagnosed in athletes? The typical presentation is seen in an athlete with a recent history of an axial load to a flexed thumb such as a fall onto an outstretched hand. Athletes will have pain and swelling noted at the base of the thumb. Active motion is limited because of pain. Once appropriate su ion for a fracture is present, standard posteroanterior, lateral, and oblique radiographs (x-rays) should be obtained. Additionally, a “prayer” view may provide a more focused view of the thumb metacarpal joint as well. If plain films still do not provide adequate evaluation of the fracture, CT scans can be obtained of the affected area. Your treating physician will not only take careful note of the size and displacement of the fracture fragment, but also will evaluate for the presence of cartilage injury (the smooth tissue that lines the joint surfaces) on both the metacarpal and trapezium. - See more at: http://www.sportsmd.com/Articles/id/....jqydVp8z.dpuf
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Emo is as emo does.
I don't care if it's all you can eat, that Luby's is nasty. You really shouldn't go there.
Never been, tbh... Golden Corral already grosses me out..
That's my concern as well. They're holding out to see if it heals without needing immediate surgery in hopes of bringing him back within a few weeks.Given the things we've heard like the doctor hasn't seen Kawhi's type of injury before, Kawhi cannot palm the ball, and Kawhi is not wearing a splint/cast, I'm guessing the bolded part is the type of injury Kawhi has. They are probably just giving it time and hoping surgery won't be needed. Not good
Didn't he have an option for surgery, and that the recovery time would of been only two months or so, but he was going to wait until the offseason to have surgery? If so he should of done it, and would of been back in early-late March.
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