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Take a look at the Spurs' record with and without Kawhi Leonard in the lineup last season, then get back to me.
Also, CJ has been playing well.... he's not the problem.
Wow you are one aggressive poster. Kawhi increases the probability of a Spurs win. That means that some potential losses (but of course not all) would become wins if he plays and in those particular games it is indeed a binary outcome. Same goes for other great players.
Take a look at the Spurs' record with and without Kawhi Leonard in the lineup last season, then get back to me.
Also, CJ has been playing well.... he's not the problem.
I agree Kawhi is the biggest part of the Spurs' improvement, but I think you also have to acknowledge the integration and improvement of Splitter, Diaw, and Green, which coincided with the teams' improvement. Splitter, Green, and Kawhi combined to return the Spurs back into a relevant defensive power (they'd gone away from that with Blair & Jefferson), and Diaw was a big part of their transition from a team that relied on the penetration of Parker and Ginobili to a team that relied more on ball movement and getting open looks on 3s.
Thank you! Well said. It's basic concept and not rocket science. Whether we win or lose is indeed the definition of a 'binary outcome.'
CJ has been doing fine, but not Tony Parker fine.
So in cherry picked situations you can have a binary outcome based on whether or not any particular player did or did not play. Sounds like a red herring.
weeks is better than ing never. lol
All Star break.
I'll say two weeks (wishful thinking) good thing is we don't have too many games this week.
I wonder if they realize he won't need surgery after all.
Weeks still?
For s sake. What's the point of all the secrecy.
Are they waiting to see if he needs surgery? I don't see why they won't give out any information.
It's screwy to me.
It's been a few weeks and he still can't catch a ball?
Would the Spurs really gamble with a player if he likely needs surgery?? Especially so early in the season.
Have you even followed this issue AT ALL? They don't KNOW what it is. Their specialist has NEVER SEEN THIS. You don't just cut a guy because the fans go all ape emo.
No Leonard, no problem, tbh.
The thunder,cavs and pels have won multiple games without KD, Lebron and Davis.
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They just said it will take some weeks... what else you need to know?
I agree man, just say he is out now and have surgery and stop prolonging this . It gets old by now.
Cavs can't win with Lebron (Cavs 1-3 without); Pels are treading water at 17-16 (0-1 without)The thunder,cavs and pels have won multiple games without KD, Lebron and Davis.
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Lies..Cavs can't win with Lebron (Cavs 1-3 without); Pels are treading water at 17-16 (0-1 without)
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The Pels have won without Davis.
on and the Spurs are 6-7 without Leoanrd...
SA should look into acquiring a backup wing soon. There's a very noticeable hole at SF this season with Kawhi out indefinitely. Doesn't help that Marco's done a piss poor job filling in.
What do you mean have I followed the issue? All we've heard is different stories. The Spurs haven't given out any official info that I've seen. If so, where is the link? We don't know if any of it it's true.
First we heard it was a bruised hand
Then we heard it was a torn ligament and he'd be back pretty soon
After that it's the specialist that they saw hasn't seen this injury in 40 years
Now we get told that he can't catch, grip or hold a ball (this sounds very serious)
Nah, I haven't followed the issue at all. You seem to be the one with your head up the front office's asshole all the time. How about you take your head out for once and look around and question what is going on?
Surely they got a second opinion from a different specialist.
I want to know what they're waiting for now. Are they hoping it will get better, do they not know if it will get better? If so, they should just come out and say it. Is surgery an option? They don't seem to want to answer any of these questions. Don't even know if anyone from the SA media is even bothering to ask any of these questions.
I don't recall any other teams keeping their fan base in the dark like this about a star player during the regular season.
What I want to know is this which I posted above - I want to know what they're waiting for now. Are they hoping it will get better, do they not know if it will get better? If so, they should just come out and say it. Is surgery an option? They don't seem to want to answer any of these questions. Don't even know if anyone from the SA media is even bothering to ask any of these questions.
To add to that, I'd like to know if they think their is a chance he might not be able to come back.
I've said it since before the 2013 season started, but Spurs don't seem like they tried very hard to do it. I'm sure they tried, but it just doesn't seem like they went all out to get a decent backup for Kawhi. Not sure why they thought they can just keep plugging SGs that can't play defense into the role of one of the best defensive SFs in the NBA, especially when two of the best players in the NBA play the SF/small ball PF position. I would have given Diaw time at PF/SF as a stopgap, but he's come back from the off-season in woeful shape.
Last edited by Ice009; 01-03-2015 at 11:52 PM.
Davis missed one game, a loss to GS.Lies..
The Pels have won without Davis.
on and the Spurs are 6-7 without Leoanrd...
Spurs are 6-8 without Leonard; Spurs are 6-7 without Parker.
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We'll hear if he undergoes surgery. We'll also hear if he's done for the season. We always have heard stuff like that from this franchise when those things happened. I suspect they're just waiting to see the evolution of it before making any kind of statement. It's apparently not an injury they deal with everyday, so it makes sense they're cautious about it.
I know fans can get impatient, but we did just get a tentative timeline. I'm sure we'll hear more between now and then...
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