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    I understand where you're coming from. But, as a parent, you gotta make changes, adjust, learn, accept. No matter what. That will be my approach to parenting. And your job, as a parent, is to be there for your child when they face that type of adversity. Absolutely Leelah would have faced adversity, and probably had, but your parents are supposed to be your champion, your cheerleader, your obsessed fan, and Leelah's parents failed at that.



    This is another one that you'll have to ask someone who is tansgender. I have no idea.
    As Christians they should be respectful and loving which imo they were. And parents are people too. Do you honestly believe Hitlers parents should of supported him and loved him?

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    What's scary is that most people would agree with her. That's society for you. Makes me believe in the Bible even more, tbh. Having nothing to do with you or anything just my beliefs.

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    As Christians they should be respectful and loving which imo they were. And parents are people too. Do you honestly believe Hitlers parents should of supported him and loved him?
    re·spect rəˈspekt/ have due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of.
    All Leelah wished was to be seen as Leelah. That didn't happen. They did not respect her.

    What's scary is that most people would agree with her. That's society for you. Makes me believe in the Bible even more, tbh. Having nothing to do with you or anything just my beliefs.
    Is that in direct response to Leviticus 18:22? and 20:13? Because the Bible is open to interpretation and I do not take it literally, as you seem to. And that's cool whatevs. I'm actually very surprised there hasn't been any name calling yet.

    I've clearly stated my opinion on the topic and it seems like we can agree that the role of male/female is defined by culture and it's ed up. But outside of that we don't agree with many other aspects of this topic.

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    You're talking like you're an expert of what goes in the mind of these people.
    that's what all the losers here do... don't you know? they're all experts on every ing thing in this world except moving out of mommy's house and contributing to society.

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    Is that in direct response to Leviticus 18:22? and 20:13?...
    so robdiaz believes in fiction but not in someone feeling alone and lost in their own skin? i'd believe a man can be a woman or vise versa before i believe in some bs book.

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    so robdiaz believes in fiction but not in someone feeling alone and lost in their own skin? i'd believe a man can be a woman or vise versa before i believe in some bs book.
    http://www.travispark.org/Sermons September 21st and 28th sermons. Read those over. That's what I believe.

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    http://www.travispark.org/Sermons September 21st and 28th sermons. Read those over. That's what I believe.
    sorry ashbeeigh but i don't tend to be an avid reader of fiction. the only fiction i read is here on ST. you can't get me to click a link that has "Sermons" in it.

    this has nothing to do with you ashbeeigh just a rant... i can't believe so many people look down on others, others they don't even know personally, because these people are just wanting to live their lives happy and with no consequence to anyone else. so many here point the finger and yet so many here should have 500 fingers pointed back at them. live your life, the naysayers! in the end, the naysayers will be living their miserable lives always worried about what this or that person is doing while never giving a second thought about what bs they're into.

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    sorry ashbeeigh but i don't tend to be an avid reader of fiction. the only fiction i read is here on ST. you can't get me to click a link that has "Sermons" in it.

    this has nothing to do with you ashbeeigh just a rant... i can't believe so many people look down on others, others they don't even know personally, because these people are just wanting to live their lives happy and with no consequence to anyone else. so many here point the finger and yet so many here should have 500 fingers pointed back at them. live your life, the naysayers! in the end, the naysayers will be living their miserable lives always worried about what this or that person is doing while never giving a second thought about what bs they're into.
    If you ever feel like reading them, they're good. But that's cool and I feel exactly the same way. I have seen some people say that Leelah's parents are guilty of murder and not to pray for them and all this bull . I don't feel that way in the least. I do believe they are grieving the loss of their child and that they deserve prayers and thoughts and all that. Do I agree with them and how they handled Leelah? Naw. But I don't hate them or wish death on them or anything. Those that do, though, that's not cool.

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    sorry ashbeeigh but i don't tend to be an avid reader of fiction. the only fiction i read is here on ST. you can't get me to click a link that has "Sermons" in it.

    this has nothing to do with you ashbeeigh just a rant... i can't believe so many people look down on others, others they don't even know personally, because these people are just wanting to live their lives happy and with no consequence to anyone else. so many here point the finger and yet so many here should have 500 fingers pointed back at them. live your life, the naysayers! in the end, the naysayers will be living their miserable lives always worried about what this or that person is doing while never giving a second thought about what bs they're into.
    Hey great point. Too bad that dude decided to off himself instead of just leaving unacceptable and hateful household.

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    And if this dude actually gave a about "trans rights" he would of chose to live. Live and fight for your cause. Fight for your rights.
    How would one go about fighting for your cause?

    Don't be a coward and take the easy way out.
    What kind of example is that? If you're bullied for being different you should kill yourself? Fine example for all the other "transgender" youth out there.
    You have to admitt putting up with the bullies may be the honorable thing to do but would anyone notice?

    This act although cowardly by some at least made the news and has poeple talking.

    Maybe something positive can come out of all this if anything many parents are now second guessing the way they treat thier own transsexual child.

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    Well done, you seem to be getting it. Boy/girl is a social construct and Leelah did not fit into those boxes. And that's where society has gone wrong.



    you can't be this re ed.

    Can you?

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    I've been through my share of ty or tough experiences, so it's hard for me to comprehend why this guy would kill himself because his parents wouldn't buy him a refurbished pussy. I guess everyone has their own reasons or excuses.

    i also can't blame the parents because I personally am not a fan of the tranny movement. I consider myself tolerant to gays, but trannies unnerve me on some fundamental level, similar to clowns.

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    None of you peckers got the Stepbrothers reference?

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    The society has made a not-so-friendly atmosphere to those gays, trannies, or whoever are different from the majority mentally or physically. The truth is that we're used to discriminating against people who're different from us, we've invented supercomputers that can make trillions of floating point operations per second, but our brains pretty much remain the same. It's not anyone else's business to care about whether one wants to a or pussy regardless of their own gender. Trannies might be disgusting to those people, but what disgusts me even more is the fact that some people tend to pay more attention to what other people have under their pants/panties between their legs. That's downright pathetic tbh, millions and millions of black kids are starving to death in Africa, and a common disease like flue may take thousands of lives there due to the lack of medicine. Meanwhile, in the US and other developed countries as well people would like to pay hundreds of thousands of bucks to make their boobs look bigger or their butts more plastic. I guess that if we can somehow extinguish, or at the very least alleviate the unfriendliness towards people who're different from us, those people would be less urgent to demand such surgeries and gradually accept what they are.

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    Holy crap, I'm not catching up on these past 40 posts but I do have a problem with " " and "asexual". The lack of conviction in something shouldn't get you included in a group of lifestyles and " " is just a meaningless, generic term

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    Holy crap, I'm not catching up on these past 40 posts but I do have a problem with " " and "asexual". The lack of conviction in something shouldn't get you included in a group of lifestyles and " " is just a meaningless, generic term
    Shouldn't you be as far away from these types of discussions as possible?

    I'm thinking necrophilia, pedophilia, rape, blood fetish and whatever else perverse you're into trumps liking it in the ass or wanting to be a girl.

    Just saying.

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    I've been through my share of ty or tough experiences, so it's hard for me to comprehend why this guy would kill himself because his parents wouldn't buy him a refurbished pussy.

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    It's disgusting to see so many people espouse self serving views.....if you're an atheist then you should really be ashamed of yourself for espousing any sense of morality as morals come from the Bible. Most of you act like gays anyway so whats the big deal.

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    As long as someone is not harming anyone else why not just let them be? My 10 year seems to be quite straight but my love for him is unconditional.

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    As long as someone is not harming anyone else why not just let them be? My 10 year seems to be quite straight but my love for him is unconditional.
    Exactly....most here claim they hate or don't believe in god but then stand up for bible principles when it comes to this kind of stuff...lol go figure.

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    It's disgusting to see so many people espouse self serving views.....if you're an atheist then you should really be ashamed of yourself for espousing any sense of morality as morals come from the Bible. Most of you act like gays anyway so whats the big deal.
    Nope. Morality is the result of self preservation and evolution of society. In short: Morale societies will thrive as opposed to non morale ones even in the absence of religion of any kind.

    A good book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Mora.../dp/0262600722

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    Nope. Morality is the result of self preservation and evolution of society. In short: Morale societies will thrive as opposed to non morale ones even in the absence of religion of any kind.

    A good book on the subject: http://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Mora.../dp/0262600722
    I couldn't disagree more. Morality is the result of self righteous power hungry pricks like the ones in this thread who want legislate sex. I'm not saying I'm a tyranny lover but isn't it their right to love who they want. Societal morality is further based on jealousy and greed.

    How do you explain war as morality based on self preservation. Alexander went conquering just for the of it for power and greed. I'm gonna get you before you get me mentality...it's not moral at all its pure self service. Think like me do as I do or you will be ostracized and hated by all...even killed by those you don't like your nonconforming. That's it and that's all...

    Moral societies thrive because everyone is a ing hypocritical. ...they do their dirt under the cover of darkness. ..you couldn't convince me that M> s, Besteva, DMC, CosmicCowboy, and Spurraider don't take it up the ass...but they gleefully sit in judgement of others. Just like all those gay KKK guys who hate others but it's later found out they secretly take it up the ass.

    I think it's laughable you can not believe in god but want to legislate someone's sex life. If you believe evolution is true then you should believe all things that don't infringe upon the rights of other people. In short if you are an atheist you should welcome gays and tyranny lovers as your brothers with open arms......lol real talk Slomo

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    I couldn't disagree more. Morality is the result of self righteous power hungry pricks like the ones in this thread who want legislate sex. I'm not saying I'm a tyranny lover but isn't it their right to love who they want. Societal morality is further based on jealousy and greed.

    How do you explain war as morality based on self preservation. Alexander went conquering just for the of it for power and greed. I'm gonna get you before you get me mentality...it's not moral at all its pure self service. Think like me do as I do or you will be ostracized and hated by all...even killed by those you don't like your nonconforming. That's it and that's all...

    Moral societies thrive because everyone is a ing hypocritical. ...they do their dirt under the cover of darkness. ..you couldn't convince me that M> s, Besteva, DMC, CosmicCowboy, and Spurraider don't take it up the ass...but they gleefully sit in judgement of others. Just like all those gay KKK guys who hate others but it's later found out they secretly take it up the ass.

    I think it's laughable you can not believe in god but want to legislate someone's sex life. If you believe evolution is true then you should believe all things that don't infringe upon the rights of other people. In short if you are an atheist you should welcome gays and tyranny lovers as your brothers with open arms......lol real talk Slomo
    Nothing above is anything more than your opinions - which you're en led to have, just not allowed to present them as facts.

    None of your examples disprove my point - actually the Alexandre example proves it (how long did his model of society survive?).

    The other examples actually have nothing to do with the point I am making which is that succesful and long lasting societies will have a clearly defined morale code even in the absence of any religion (and specifiacally in the absence of Christianity). Which contradicts your position that morals only come from the Bible.

    As for the hipocrisy in this thread, it's hardly surprising.

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