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  1. #76
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    Say what you want about Kobe "showing balls", but this sends a horrible message to his younger teammates.

    This is nothing to do with Kobe being an alpha or anything like that, it's Kobe being an asshole and a prima donna who no longer wants to operate within the team concept.

    They would have lost either way imo, but you gotta go down as a unit. All Kobe's display could accomplish is to split the locker room in two, which is the last ing thing that team needs at the moment.
    If you know something is wrong sitting back and letting your team go down like that doesn't make you a good teammate. It makes you a re actually.

    I'm all for ting on Kirby but this is way ing out there tbh.

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    If you know something is wrong sitting back and letting your team go down like that doesn't make you a good teammate. It makes you a re actually.

    I'm all for ting on Kirby but this is way ing out there tbh.
    No it's not. It's not lord of the ing flies. It's a professional basketball game with a hired head coach and players who get paid to follow instructions. Those of you who don't see that either have never been leaders or never will be because you don't see the value of protocol over instant gratification.

  3. #78
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    Following protocol usually entails its for the betterment of the team. When it's so blatantly obvious that that isn't the case you do something about it. It's asinine to sit on your ass and let it happen when you can stop it.

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    I hate kobe but i dont know how Anyone can trash him in this situation. Did the right thing. And yeah he disobeyed the coach but I wouldnt eat my if I was told to.

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    I hate kobe but i dont know how Anyone can trash him in this situation. Did the right thing. And yeah he disobeyed the coach but I wouldnt eat my if I was told to.
    Because an ill-advised play in a professional basketball game is like eating human excrement.

  6. #81
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    Because an ill-advised play in a professional basketball game is like eating human excrement.
    And because I'll follow my coach's orders unless I have a better idea.

  7. #82
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    And because I'll follow my coach's orders unless I have a better idea.
    Quit being purposely obtuse. There's a huge difference b/w overriding an order that would doom the team and overriding one just for the of it.

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    Quit being purposely obtuse. There's a huge difference b/w overriding an order that would doom the team and overriding one just for the of it.
    Either can undermine the coach, which Kobe couldn't care less about. And really, doom the team? Like what, to eternal fire?

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    Either can undermine the coach, which Kobe couldn't care less about. And really, doom the team? Like what, to eternal fire?
    He probably couldn't care less about that, this just isn't a good example of it. Subs ute whatever word you feel is appropriate, fact remains that the game would've been over when it didn't need to be.

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    He probably couldn't care less about that, this just isn't a good example of it. Subs ute whatever word you feel is appropriate, fact remains that the game would've been over when it didn't need to be.
    What about coach/player roles do you not get? Do you think it's the player's responsibility to do everything in their power to win the game? If so, do you think each player should make their own decisions about what the best course of action should be? You're the one using hyperbole to defend Kobe's actions and not getting it that the coach makes those decisions, wrong or right. Coach says call a time out, you call one even if there's a wide open lane to the basket. Coach says dribble the clock out, you do that even if there's a wide open lane to the basket. Coach says feed the post, you do that even if the post player is Jeff Ayers.

    So the game would have been over. They would have been 10-23 instead of possibly being 11-22, and the price of that attempt to salvage that game? Building mistrust in the team and Kobe putting himself above the coaching system, again.

  11. #86
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    Nah. You're wrong on this one.

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    Deems you're in the wrong here , breh.

    We would each take turns to defecate on Kirby like that Blazer-poop GIF Splits always posts...but I just can't bring myself to it on this one.

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    ^I'm with & Sookeyaki on this one, D.

    You're wrong.

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    Deems you're in the wrong here , breh.

    We would each take turns to defecate on Kirby like that Blazer-poop GIF Splits always posts...but I just can't bring myself to it on this one.
    That's not my

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    How can someone defend Scott in this situation? Makes me question their basketball iq tbh.

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    What about coach/player roles do you not get? Do you think it's the player's responsibility to do everything in their power to win the game? If so, do you think each player should make their own decisions about what the best course of action should be? You're the one using hyperbole to defend Kobe's actions and not getting it that the coach makes those decisions, wrong or right. Coach says call a time out, you call one even if there's a wide open lane to the basket. Coach says dribble the clock out, you do that even if there's a wide open lane to the basket. Coach says feed the post, you do that even if the post player is Jeff Ayers.
    Honestly, with takes like this, I now have zero doubts you're a moron.

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    Honestly, with takes like this, I now have zero doubts you're a moron.
    your funniest moment yet.... let me keep it going....if coach says commit a back-court violation, or purposely foul your opponent under 2 mins, or commit a flagrant 1-2 foul, or commit a clear path foul then you should clearly follow the commands of the coach....I tried to tell yall that DMC and Midnight_Pulp have Kobe Derangement Syndrome

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    I'm not defending Scott. He doesn't need to be defended. I am defending the role separation between coach and player. It's one thing had Scott neglected to tell the team to foul, but he told them to not foul. That's not negligent, it's intentional. For whatever reason, the coach didn't want to foul at that moment, but Kobe did, so instead of Kobe addressing the coach he made Lin look like an idiot with his typical "you guys are idiots, I'm a hero" type move. He threw his teammate under the bus. I believe Scott was going to call for the foul eventually, don't know why he was waiting. Parsimony suggests he needs to keep the bottom 5 in view, that a win could actually be a loss in that regard. From that perspective I can see the difference between a player's job and a coach's job, tanking is real and everyone here knows it. It's possible that Scott just wanted tighter control over the clock, and Kobe didn't care.

    My question though is why no one else on the team initiated the foul, why Kobe? Had I told everyone here that "someone else on the team ran up and fouled the guy even though the coach said wait" you'd all know it was Kobe. That says something and it's not "I want to win". Don't let your hate for Byron Scott cloud your judgement on the role of the head coach. Fire the guy if he's a tool, but at some point the coach has to have the reins.

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    Honestly, with takes like this, I now have zero doubts you're a moron.
    You're the one dressed in Spurs gear rooting for the Lakers.

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    your funniest moment yet.... let me keep it going....if coach says commit a back-court violation, or purposely foul your opponent under 2 mins, or commit a flagrant 1-2 foul, or commit a clear path foul then you should clearly follow the commands of the coach....I tried to tell yall that DMC and Midnight_Pulp have Kobe Derangement Syndrome
    Or sweep the leg

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    ^I'm with & Sookeyaki on this one, D.

    You're wrong.
    Your opinion on basketball related things is worthless. You only do scoreboarding and trends.

  22. #97
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    Your opinion on basketball related things is worthless. You only do scoreboarding and trends.
    You are just jealous of me.

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    You are just jealous of me.
    Yeah, I wish I could watch the same movie every day and be surprised by the ending.

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