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It is what it is manI still am happy they got #5 before it was all said and done and will be happy with that if he can't get healthy again this year.
The ironic thing might be that with all the old guys on this team it is our youngest key piece that get's seriously injured. (Since we assume Parker will be back shortly).
It is what it is man
That's why I started the thread. It seems like not many people are overly concerned about one of the top 2 players on the team being potentially out for the season. The other thread only had like 3 or 4 pages which I find strange. Maybe this board is now filled with too many trolls to give a ?
Most fans still think Manu and Parker are more valuable.
Top 2? He's the most valuable..
Again, most fans are big 3 mainstream fans anyway..They wouldn't know how important it is.
Tim and Kawhi are 1a and 1b. If Tim's out and Kawhi was playing, Spurs still wouldn't have a chance to win anything (I'm talking Championship, not regular season games).
What I'm also wondering, if Kawhi does play through this, can it get any worse to the point where it can affect his career. It's his shooting hand, so I'm a bit worried about that too. I assume the Spurs wouldn't bring him back if it could stuff his hand up long term?
Of course, everybody is wrong except you.
Your example failed again.The team isn't losing because of Leonard. Otherwise they would have lost last night as well. Why is that so hard for you to understand? I realize you want Leonard to be Michael Jordan, but the Spurs don't run that way. Sure Leonard is a factor, but so is Tony Parker. Leonard might be a bigger factor than Tony, probably is, but his absence doesn't cause the Spurs to shoot 20% from 3.
Like when you said "there's just no one to guard the paint when Tim is out". While Kawhi is usually assigned to guard the opponent's best perimeter player, Tim rarely defend the opposing top bigman offensive threat -who is Tiago's assignment-.
About the 3's...This season Leonard does a great job of recognizing the double team in the post and passing to the open man creating the opportunities for the Spurs three-point shooters to take a wide open shot.
Even if his contribution isn't the primary determinant of their good shooting nights, obviously -because we know about Danny/Marco's icy-hot streaks- you can't say his absence has nothing to do with the low percentage or doesn't impact their shots.
Kawhi isn't Michael Jordan. "Kawhi Leonard, who are you man?" "Kawhi Leonard"
I agree with this. Kawhi has given all Spursfan hope since his rookie season. Personally I'm not a huge cliff diver, also winning 5 has given me some peace towards the team, so that could be why others also aren't freaking out. It is definetly worrying, though Mel_13's post is at least good news.
if this injury happened last year, this thread would be 30+ pages already. As of now, just have to hope for the best.
If this happened last year after 6 it would just be too cruel to Spurs fans, damn I am glad it did not. I wish him well and hope he can play again this year but as you said 5 gave alot like me Peace towards the team and I am alot more relaxed now. I am not freaking out because I expect him out long term at this point to be honest, that way I am not shocked if they come out and say he is out for months or needs surgery.
Would you just STFU. Everyone knows how valuable Leonard is to the team, even the Ginobili and Parker fans. Without him the Spurs would not have 5 and if he is out for the season, then the Spurs will certainly not repeat. Just because some of the people here are not as big Kawhi fans as you are doesn't mean they don't know what he does for this team. Your problem is you want Kawhi to be everyone's favorite player.
Who said otherwise?
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You're another player groupie. There's no point in arguing with you since you're either A) trolling or B) biased. A few of you here are only interested in worshiping certain guys. That's not my thing. Because of that, you guys don't even really talk basketball, you just look for confirmation to support your god belief.Of course, everybody is wrong except you.
Your example failed again.
Like when you said "there's just no one to guard the paint when Tim is out". While Kawhi is usually assigned to guard the opponent's best perimeter player, Tim rarely defend the opposing top bigman offensive threat -who is Tiago's assignment-.
About the 3's...This season Leonard does a great job of recognizing the double team in the post and passing to the open man creating the opportunities for the Spurs three-point shooters to take a wide open shot.
Even if his contribution isn't the primary determinant of their good shooting nights, obviously -because we know about Danny/Marco's icy-hot streaks- you can't say his absence has nothing to do with the low percentage or doesn't impact their shots.
Kawhi isn't Michael Jordan. "Kawhi Leonard, who are you man?" "Kawhi Leonard"
Its a tear, it takes time to fully heal.
I don't think its bad as Pop is letting on. Like I mentioned before, Kawhi almost had a 5 by 5 while playing with the injury.
We all know, the Spurs aren't winning the Finals without Kawhi fully healthy. Spurs are just being cautious. I think he could play right now, but Pop wants to make sure he is 100% before playing him.
The only team that a healthy Spurs roster couldn't beat without HC is the Thunder imo. So as long as the Spurs remain ahead of them in the standings, that is all that matters.
Last edited by Cowboys_Wear_Spurs; 01-05-2015 at 10:06 AM.
1) we can't win without TP
2) we can't win without Kawhi
3) we can't win without 15mpg Evita
4) we can't win with 25+mpg Evita
these are all things we agree on. let's move on....
It really feels to me like, Pop is just juggling guys, yes they probably do have injuries, but if they had to they could play...
He's taken resting players to a new level, while at the same time to continue developing others.
The Wiz game towards the end was when, we caught a glimpse of the TEAM that won the finals last year, with the High percentages and shot making... and without our Finals MVP and our Big 2 playing crummy, AND Parker out...
Against a Solid Playoff Wiz team, hungry to prove their legitimacy. And Wall is top 5-10 PG, they have a pretty sick line up on paper, skilled bigs, Cagey Veteran faded Star in Paul Pierce
He doesn't need to rest a 23 year old star. He has said it that they haven't dealt with this injury before. Tbh, his descriptions were scary, iirc he said that the hand couldn't do the things that a normal basketball player should do, etc2. We don't even know if it's just pure pain or something went completely immovable temporarily, I'm no expert but just from reading Pop's comments on this one is alarming enough. Heck I wouldn't be surprised if he gets shut down for the season.
Well said.
Got this off the Austin Spurs FB group:
Here's some good news from today's San Antonio Express-News and a quote from Danny Green:
“I talked to Kawhi,” Green said. “He seems like he’s in better spirits because he said he got some good news. I don’t think he has to get surgery. I think he might be back sooner than (the media) or Pop expects. He’s a tough kid.”
Also, Pop is quoted in Michael Erler's article about TP and Kawhi's injuries at Pounding The Rock that surgery is not imminent in the off season. I'm not sure why this wasn't mentioned in the Express-News article.
What day was this from?
That sounds very good. When is that from?
It was posted this morning on the group so I'd guess from today or yesterday. Not totally sure though.
Hopefully his hand gets better soon, Spurs look like without him, MVP.
Hopefully thats true and thats good news but We know Pop wont play him even if KL thinks he is ready to go until Pop thinks he is ready to go
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