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With the info we have available, this makes no sense:
Why would OKC have to send a 1st RD pick out when they are the ones helping facillitate the deal? They are allowing CLE to dump Waiters/get Shump/JR and allowing NY to salary dump JR/Shump.
With the info we have available, this makes no sense:
Why would OKC have to send a 1st RD pick out when they are the ones helping facillitate the deal? They are allowing CLE to dump Waiters/get Shump/JR and allowing NY to salary dump JR/Shump.
I'd a agree with this sort of complacency if we were 25-9 or something, but like I said, there's no guarantee we even make it into the playoffs. Call me a pessimist, but the team's perimeter defense has been absolutely atrocious lately, we're having to rely on a 38 year old, 37 year old, and Cory Joseph to carry the offense, the team rebounding is , and we're one Tim Duncan ankle tweak away from disaster.
The FO needs to move (unless they know something about Leonard we don't).
It's not just Kawhi. TP has been out. Tiago has been out and now limited minutes. Kawhi has missed a lot of time. Even if the Spurs could get a Dion Waiters SF equivalent, that would not move the needle at all with regards to your concerns.
Waiters to OKC gotta be a CIA Pop move to install a malcontent chucker there
I'd take Marion any day.
5 rings vs 0, 0 and ...uh.. 0 (for intents and purposes)
of a coup for OKC if true. Sure, Dion Waiters isn't anything special, but he's at worst a lateral move to what they have at SG now, so it's a low-risk/high reward gamble.
Meanwhile, the Spurs are standing "pat" like they always do.
People who think Waiters is good at basketball are the same ones that marvel at the two guys on the playground who take it to each other in one-on-one (exerting no energy on defense so the other guy doesn't D them up in return) while the other eight guys watch.Waiters to OKC gotta be a CIA Pop move to install a malcontent chucker there
Or people who get tricked into thinking every seven footer is the next coming.
I don't think Shump is all that, but I'll take him over current Marion, no doubt about it
Still doesn't make OKC giving up a 1st rounder for Dion Waiters make any sense:
Reggie complained early in the season about not having a bigger role... you have to wonder if they're looking to move him (maybe not in this deal, but a later deal) and just acquired Waiters fill his spot...
I get that - I mentioned earlier they may want a scoring 2 guard with actual 2 guard size, but giving up a first rounder to take Waiters off CLE's hands? Just absorbing him for free should have been enough. They allowed CLE to get JR/Shump so why are they paying a 1st rounder? May just be a heavily protected pick that has very little chance at switching hands, but man.
So what would the 1st rounder be for? A gentleman's agreement on a future deal?
We gotta look at what kind of protection is there on the 1st round pick.... if it's top 10 protected, it's probably a good deal for OKC...
I also don't know how much Waiters make, but it could just be a "making salaries match" kind of deal with a strong protection
It better be top 29 protected for the next 5 years and if they don't hit that level the pick stays in OKC for that to make sense
A solid backup SF (that could also start when/if Leonard gets injured) would move the needle quite a bit. It's our weakest position depth wise.
When Kawhi is out of the lineup/game, the choices are: Austin Daye (
Leonard's absence really does throw everything out of whack, much more so than if Parker or Splitter miss time, since we have solid placeholders for them.
I had to google who this guy was...for some reason I thought he was an OT/OG in the NFL
I think OKC is pretty confident KD will stay with them. In which case the pick will probably be pretty high... and they're getting a top-5 draft class talent out of it (I actually don't think Dion is very good, but he did get drafted #4). It's a low-risk, high reward for them... obviously, just as long as KD sticks around and is healthy...
A really good SF moves the needle, sure. But not the Dion Waiters of SF's like OKC got.A solid backup SF (that could also start when/if Leonard gets injured) would move the needle quite a bit. It's our weakest position depth wise.
When Kawhi is out of the lineup/game, the choices are: Austin Daye (
Leonard's absence really does throw everything out of whack, much more so than if Parker or Splitter miss time, since we have solid placeholders for them.
What I don't get is what's Cleveland doing? JR Smith? Shumpert?
I just don't see how a team that has to have young talent and has drafted well, can justify giving up a 1st rounder (even late) for the privilege of taking Dion Waiters off CLE's hands. Perhaps it's a pick that never gets to CLE, then fine, but if not I don't see how CLE had any leverage with regards to getting a first rounder for Waiters.
They are in win-now mode. Have been since they decided to trade for Love. If that's the case, while not very good, there is no question JR/Shump > Waiters. Plus, if they actually had the chance to get a first rounder for Waiters, they had to make that move.
They can't pay Reggie in the summer. Dion has an extra year in his rookie deal. It's a gamble, it always is.
Playing chess while the rest of us are playing checkers, obviously.
...or a certain cat lover is now Cleveland's GM.
Shumpert is ok, but Friendkiller should not see the floor in any type of contender...
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