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    You don't know basketball if you actually believe this about Kobe. Kobe is cemented in the top 15.
    based on what?

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    Place your bets on the East winning it this year.
    Kobe won't play much so non story it will be ceremonial and he will chuck some shots ...
    West still has the better team and unless Wall or Kyrie take over I still favor a team of: Paul, Westbrook, Durant, ADavis, Harden, Lillard, Steph Curry Blake Griffin All those guys are built for the ASG ...
    outside of the 2 PG's in the East I mentioned plus Lebron and STDwade I dont see much high caliber All-star game type players

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    given the trend, it's likely TD will be a top 4 all time and kobe barely cling for the top 30, 10 years from now. I'm not joking btw.
    Still funny though ...

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    Kobe is top 15 tbh. As much as the hate this dude gets, he's up there.

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    Westbrook has fewer votes than Lillard, Rond and Luigi?

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    Westbrook has fewer votes than Lillard, Rond and Luigi?
    Rin, a second stringer, only 8k votes behind

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    Everyone knows raven is a dumbass and you shouldn't take her seriously

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    Everyone knows raven is a dumbass and you shouldn't take her seriously
    And a nappy headed ho....a nappy neck skeezer....

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    Name me just 15 players better than him. I'm not a fan of Kobe other than his work ethic and fundamentals but to not have him top 15 is ludicrous! You're just a Kobe hater(as am I, I ing hate selfish players like him) but you take it to another level. There's not a person who truly knows and appreciates basketball that doesn't have him top 15.

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    Name me just 15 players better than him. I'm not a fan of Kobe other than his work ethic and fundamentals but to not have him top 15 is ludicrous! You're just a Kobe hater(as am I, I ing hate selfish players like him) but you take it to another level. There's not a person who truly knows and appreciates basketball that doesn't have him top 15.
    This is really a tough challenge, I will give it a shot

    Kareem
    Jordan
    Magic
    Bird
    Russell
    Duncan
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Lebron
    Oscar Robertson
    Moses Malone
    Wilt

    I will take these 12 over Kobe without reservations.

    the next two will have a lot of back and forth though.
    West
    Dr. J


    No, can't do it. I personally have Kobe at 13, when taking into his whole body of work, 15 is really stretching it.

    People can argue for Isiah, Rick Barry, Garnett, Barkley, and such, but that is a really tough sale, even for the most ardent of Kobe haters.

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    given the trend, it's likely TD will be a top 4 all time and kobe barely cling for the top 30, 10 years from now. I'm not joking btw.
    I disagree dude, Kobe has cemented top 10 status whether you like it or not. The dude is a horrible human being, but the general public seems to believe hes a top 10 of all time as do most NBA superstars.

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    I disagree dude, Kobe has cemented top 10 status whether you like it or not. The dude is a horrible human being, but the general public seems to believe hes a top 10 of all time as do most NBA superstars.
    Nah, take away Shaq and Pau and he's nowhere near being in that top 10 list.

    Edit : He's definitely got the skill, but his lack of team game wouldn't have gotten him there IMO if he had to play solo without a great big man.

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    Posted: Thu Jan 01, 2015 10:57 am Post subject: Article: "Undeserving Kobe Bryant still set to start NBA All-Star Game" - kobe to start over harden / vote for kobe pg. 9

    A very interesting and truthful article written by a very credible person that knows the history of the all star game. He is also very respectful of Kobe Bryant. This is a true journalist/novelist that is enriching souls a
    all over the planet with his objective intellectual articles...i dont think i would even call this an article...its more like a gift to man kind.

    - lol

    http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2015/1/1...y-lebron-james

    Should kobe start over james harden? Yes. Is Kobe still better than James Harden? Yes.

    Last edited by Jeggs on Sat Jan 03, 2015 12:48 pm; edited 2 times in total

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    can't play a regular season game because he's tired but he's good to start a weekend exhibition game... got it.

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    I disagree dude, Kobe has cemented top 10 status whether you like it or not. The dude is a horrible human being, but the general public seems to believe hes a top 10 of all time as do most NBA superstars.
    Current youth (those who vote) always think the current players are best.

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    Anyone who doesn't see the AS game as an embarrassment to the game itself is an idiot. You have the same few guys who have ty years and still top vote getters. It has nothing to do with game. Look at the market size vs the players. Only far and away guys like Davis are understandable. The rest are head scratchers.

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    Nah, take away Shaq and Pau and he's nowhere near being in that top 10 list.

    Edit : He's definitely got the skill, but his lack of team game wouldn't have gotten him there IMO if he had to play solo without a great big man.
    Take away Parker and Ginobli and TD has 0 rings. WTF is your point?

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    Take away Parker and Ginobli and TD has 0 rings. WTF is your point?
    I guess you've forgotten about the ring he won without Turnobili or Enrique?

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    I guess you've forgotten about the ring he won without Turnobili or Enrique?
    Memorial day miracle
    out of bounds

    Tbf Portland wouldn't have won that series, but still.

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    I guess you've forgotten about the ring he won without Turnobili or Enrique?
    You get the point, take away Robinson as well.

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    Take away Parker and Ginobli and TD has 0 rings. WTF is your point?
    I was saying that Kobe has/had the skill to be a top 10 player, but I don't think anyone would have considered him one if he had to go it alone solo.

    His putrid team game would have derailed him IMO from getting that recognition. If he didn't have a great big man to throw it into, he just wouldn't have passed the ball. He probably would have had great numbers, but no one would consider him a top 10 player. Playing with two very, very good bigs and winning those rings are what gets him that recognition.

    TD won in dominating fashion without Parker and Ginobili. Don't you remember the '99 Spurs dominating and sweeping the Lakers out of the playoffs while shutting down the forum with their suffocating defense during that playoff run?

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