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Individually, except Manu and TP, Spurs are fine... Boris, Split, Tim, Kawhi are having a pretty comparable season than last year in almost all possible metrics tbh Green is having a better season than LY by the same metrics. Therefore individually this core of players is playing fine.
As stated 1,0000 times already Parker sucks PER at 16,8 average of the league 15... -2,1 pts vs LY. Ortg and Drtg worst etc etc only stuff going well is shooting
Manu is on the same case or worst tbh PER at 16,6 -3,4 pts vs LY, big drop on Ortg and Drtg, shooting being worst...
From there team is getting healthy little by little... this is gonna help obviously and if individually dudes are ok there is no reason to not produce at same pace than last year.
Regarding Manu, TP, Patty back will mean less minutes for him which should lead to an improvement of his efficiency (he is playing more minutes so far this year than last year and he is 38). Parker is a mystery, best case scenario injuries / issues whatever are ing his game up, healthier he will be back on track, worst case his decline started bad and sharp which means trouble short term and which also means the contract he just signed will hurt the Spurs on the long run... it is what it is. I'm caustiously optimistic on this point, I think he will put his together.
Individual performance being solid for everybody except again Manu and TP means imo there is no motivation issue, there is no aging stuff and the 21-15 is just explained by injuries and in particular Kawhi. Once Kawhi back, plane will fly again.
ps: sorry it's a bit messy but you get the point
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I tend to agree.
The other small silver linning is that they are not getting trounced.
It's simple, this team won 5, everything else is gravy.
Im not mad becauce 5 happened but to be honest this team is pure evil they are draining Tim and Manu´s energy for nothing, 15 lost games already and counting Boris is such a fat piece of too much toast but that fatso is not even showing up, the whole team D is to cry for every scrub can penetrate to do a layup and then our guys cant make a layup even to save their lives, the way they blow an 18 point lead to finally lose the game and the FT% what are they? junior varsity team?
New year old team thats makes me a little sad or you guys expect every other west team to lose 30 more games so we can get the 1st seed? even an easy schedule is too much for these Spurs (excepting Tim and Manu).
I would add that Matty probably wont have another game with negative +/-
Health and motivation are the biggest issues this season. Motivation is probably #1. This team just does not look hungry, or rather, focused. Spurs-ball requires laser focus. We have taken that focus for granted since the offense blossomed in the 2010-2011 season.
With a lesser focus, the team unconsciously relies on bailouts, and the Spurs' stars are just not up to the task. Tim and Manu are too old to consistently carry the team, and Parker--who had been a great carrier for the last 3 seasons--is hobbled by who knows what.
Parker will get right soon enough, but the question is whether his "right" will mean overall lower performance, and whether he can still easily re-injure himself. If TP is going to be an injury mess a la Ginobili 2008-2013, the Spurs cannot rely on TP as their consistent offensive threat and point scorer. And there is no one else on the roster who can take that role just yet.
But I count my blessings. Five was a Disney movie miracle. It could not have happened better. It cemented my favorite team as an all-time dynasty, and forever will their names be spoken with reverence. Just not on this site.
Championship hangover. Last year, they were salty. This year, not so much.
Sure 5 is awesome and nothing that could happen this year would let me mad. I just hope we can be compe ive a last time or two with Manu and Tim
5 is a bit bitterwseet in the short term if the guys go out playing like gutless worms
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This plus so many goddamn injuries and no chance to gel. Still haven't had the full roster even one game.
The important thing is we have built-in losing excuses for all 82 games.
Gino started the season really well, tbh... unfortunately, due to injuries to other players and having to carry the team, his minutes are on pace to be the most since the 2010-2011 season (!) and undoubtedly that has started to take a toll on his game since mid-december...
With Tony and Patty back, hopefully he can start to get some rest...
Tony ain't back tbh. He might have played yesterday but he isn't back. Spurs either need to sit him out until March or play him his regular mins/role.
This flip flopping, coming back for a game, playing 1 half BS is f'n up rotations royally.
What gives the most optimism is that the Spurs struggled last season too when Kawhi was out (8-8, IIRC). So, there's no way to spin the fact we need him back, and once he's back, we should be in much better shape.
That's exactly my point indeed... He is playing 26 min per game but when people missing he is closer to 28-29 which is obviously too much. On top of that it's one thing to play 28 min sharing playmaking responsabilities as guard it's another to have to carry everything offensively. As a consequence his production is dropping so parker patty back is huge for him and the spurs
Updated On-Off numbers for the Spurs. Positive impact players in black. Negative impact in red. Some observations:
-Team desperately needs Kawhi back. By far, the most impactful player on the team.
-Team needs Tony to go away. His play this season has been cancerous. Misses weeks at a time. Never cheers his teammates. Sulks on the bench. Comes back and only plays one half of basketball while ruining the team chemistry. Promised 60 million over the next four years...despite having the lowest impact of all our key players. Earn your paycheck or get the off the team Frenchie.
-Patty's been great so far. Provides so much energy to the bench unit and hustles on both ends of the floor.
-Splitter's defense has been bad this season. He just came back from injury so I guess we can cut him some slack. Hopefully we see some improvement in the coming weeks.
-Marco's one of the worst defenders in Spur history. His contribution on offense is negligible compared to how much he gives back on defense. Just a terrible, terrible player. It's not surprising we're struggling when we have someone so bad filling in for Leonard in the starting lineup.
-at Austin Daye's numbers. How is this guy still in the NBA?
Leonard:
Patty:
Manu:
Danny:
Diaw:
TD:
Cojo
Bonner:
Tiago:
Baynes:
Errors
Enrique
Marco the Cancer
Kyle Anderson
Daye
^^..
I agree about Tiago, his defense has been awful this season, especially considering he's usually one of the best defensive bigs in the league, tbh..
Updated On-Off numbers for the Spurs. Positive impact players in black. Negative impact in red. Some observations:
-Team desperately needs Kawhi back. By far, the most impactful player on the team.
-Team needs Tony to go away. His play this season has been cancerous. Misses weeks at a time. Never cheers his teammates. Sulks on the bench. Comes back and only plays one half of basketball while ruining the team chemistry. Promised 60 million over the next four years...despite having the lowest impact of all our key players. Earn your paycheck or get the off the team Frenchie.
-Patty's been great so far. Provides so much energy to the bench unit and hustles on both ends of the floor.
-Splitter's defense has been bad this season. He just came back from injury so I guess we can cut him some slack. Hopefully we see some improvement in the coming weeks.
-Marco's one of the worst defenders in Spur history. His contribution on offense is negligible compared to how much he gives back on defense. Just a terrible, terrible player. It's not surprising we're struggling when we have someone so bad filling in for Leonard in the starting lineup.
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Leonard:
Patty:
Manu:
Danny:
Diaw:
TD:
Cojo
Bonner:
Tiago:
Baynes:
Errors
Enrique
Marco the Cancer
Kyle Anderson
Daye
Also the amount of minutes kawhi plays and impact is huge compared to his big minute teamates.Updated On-Off numbers for the Spurs. Positive impact players in black. Negative impact in red. Some observations:
-Team desperately needs Kawhi back. By far, the most impactful player on the team.
-Team needs Tony to go away. His play this season has been cancerous. Misses weeks at a time. Never cheers his teammates. Sulks on the bench. Comes back and only plays one half of basketball while ruining the team chemistry. Promised 60 million over the next four years...despite having the lowest impact of all our key players. Earn your paycheck or get the off the team Frenchie.
-Patty's been great so far. Provides so much energy to the bench unit and hustles on both ends of the floor.
-Splitter's defense has been bad this season. He just came back from injury so I guess we can cut him some slack. Hopefully we see some improvement in the coming weeks.
-Marco's one of the worst defenders in Spur history. His contribution on offense is negligible compared to how much he gives back on defense. Just a terrible, terrible player. It's not surprising we're struggling when we have someone so bad filling in for Leonard in the starting lineup.
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Leonard:
Patty:
Manu:
Danny:
Diaw:
TD:
Cojo
Bonner:
Tiago:
Baynes:
Errors
Enrique
Marco the Cancer
Kyle Anderson
Daye
Tony has been hurt, tbh.... hopefully now that he's fully healed we're going to get much better production from him...
I posted about Leonard in the wrong thread but yeah we're missing the kind of superstar who's absence from his team would result in losses for everyone.
We were like a top 2 defensive team in the league! I haven't dared checking lately...What is clear is that Leonard's D is absolutely phenomenal, including the rebounding, with how drastically the Spurs fortunes change in those departments depending on him being there or not and we're talking enough positive change that we arguably become the best team in the league, it is now very clear that Leonard should legitimately be considered a top 10 player in the league.
It should be needless to say that almost any team would start losing when they're missing that kind of elite player.
Lebron
Durant
Westbrook
Paul
Harden
Davis
then I think Leonard is already in the discussion. His impact on D is that significant:
the likes of Gasol, Curry, Leonard then Howard and maybe Cousins if he hasn't returned to bad habits. Griffin is underperforming this season.
We're missing a superstar.
Whole lot of enriched, truth uranium in this post.Updated On-Off numbers for the Spurs. Positive impact players in black. Negative impact in red. Some observations:
-Team desperately needs Kawhi back. By far, the most impactful player on the team.
-Team needs Tony to go away. His play this season has been cancerous. Misses weeks at a time. Never cheers his teammates. Sulks on the bench. Comes back and only plays one half of basketball while ruining the team chemistry. Promised 60 million over the next four years...despite having the lowest impact of all our key players. Earn your paycheck or get the off the team Frenchie.
-Patty's been great so far. Provides so much energy to the bench unit and hustles on both ends of the floor.
-Splitter's defense has been bad this season. He just came back from injury so I guess we can cut him some slack. Hopefully we see some improvement in the coming weeks.
-Marco's one of the worst defenders in Spur history. His contribution on offense is negligible compared to how much he gives back on defense. Just a terrible, terrible player. It's not surprising we're struggling when we have someone so bad filling in for Leonard in the starting lineup.
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Leonard:
Patty:
Manu:
Danny:
Diaw:
TD:
Cojo
Bonner:
Tiago:
Baynes:
Errors
Enrique
Marco the Cancer
Kyle Anderson
Daye
If this team really needs Parker to go away, you can forget any championship.
If we are indeed better without Parker this year, it stops at 5. We are cooked.
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