***** The Official 2014 Avante Football Thread *****

[Avante]

Who thinks of the Pacific Northwest and football?

Oregon NCAA champs
Seattle NFL champs

A very real possibilty.

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Evolution? With the NCAA going more and more to mobile/athletic/black QB's (look at all the top teams with them) watch what happens in the NFL. And.....with up tempo NCAA football we'll be seeing smaller quicker defensive linemen, big 330 pound run stuffers can't hang at that pace. Where does the NFL get it;s D linemen?

By 2025 there will be more black QB's in the league than ever, and smaller quicker defensive linemen. Yep, a different game.

[Avante]

I saw my first televised NFL game in 1962, it was the Giants vs Bears, that day number 28 Willie Galimore stold the show. Seen a lot of CFL/WFL/USFL/NCAA/AFL/NFL/JC/high school football. And have never ever seen a call as bad as what we saw in that Cowboy game. How can that not be pass interference? That was the classic example of pass interference. Could use that as a poster that reads...pass interference.

Sure it all evens out over a season, but to have that happen in a playoff game........wrong!

[Avante]

The All Time Pro Bowl.

AFC

Peyton Manning Colts
Jim Brown Browns
Jerome Bettis Steelers
Marvin Harrison Colts
Tim Brown Raiders
Tony Gonzalez Chiefs

NFC

Joe Montana Niners
Walter Payton Bears
Barry Sanders Lions
Jerry Rice Niners
Randy Moss Vikes
Jason Witten Cowboys

Hmmmm?

[Avante]

No team in the league has won more games in December than the Patriots, they are 69-31 since 1990. The Ravens are 49-49. Don't have that info for January.

Seattle 53 Carolina 48
Green Bay 66 Dallas 45

Forget Indy vs Denver, the Peyton Manning factor at work there.

[Avante]

No time in playoff history has a team with a losing record won a road playoff game. They are 0-5. Soon to be...0-6.

Baltimore has never beaten NE when Gronk plays.

I feel sorry for the Steelers, they really missed Bell.
Feel sorry for the Bengals, no Green or Gresham.
Feel sorry for the Lions, that was the poster child for pass interference.

So far home teams are 3-1 in the playoffs, will be 7-1 after this round.

[Avante]

Hard to believe guys who make millions of dollars at what they do drafted Johnny Manziel. I would have sat down with the guy and made it very clear if he wants to play for my team he will need to drop his at ude and yes he will change. This..."I'm doing what I want"...won't work. If he can't figure out an NFL QB won't allow him to do what he wants, if he doesn't know an NFL QB is suppose to be the leader of the team I can't use him. If I don't get...."yes sir I understand that and will do what needs to be done"......I;m not wasting a draft pick on him.

After watching him in 2014, I'm dumping him. His immaturity is too obvious.

[Avante]

Imagine the Seahawks without Lynch, the Cowboys without Murray. That's what we saw with the Steelers without Bell. Are the Ravens really all that in 2014? Or did they get a little lucky?

The Ravens have never beaten a Pats team with Gronk playing, that won't change.

[pgardn]

Denver: 7-7
49ers: 4-10
Seattle: 8-6
Indy: 10-4
Cincy: 7-7

this power system is a combined 36-34 this year. for your standard 110 to win 100 bets, that leads to a total of -$140

this is why systems/trends are for chumps. rather than stick to this phony bologna system

Its a horrible way to bet that is fed to the public without any mechanism to back it.
It assumes that past events influence future events, like a guy reasoning that he has flipped too many heads in a row, so that the next flip has a greater chance of being tales, or vice versa ( I'm on a hot streak, it's got to be heads again)

Its about the same as Avante's reasoning that evolution is bogus. It's hopelessly misinformed.
If he thinks winning one season is a validation that he really is good at this, give it some time, he will eventually regress to .500, and with that 10% off the top, that's a loser. Vegas welcomes him.

[Avante]

Its a horrible way to bet that is fed to the public without any mechanism to back it.
It assumes that past events influence future events, like a guy reasoning that he has flipped too many heads in a row, so that the next flip has a greater chance of being tales, or vice versa ( I'm on a hot streak, it's got to be heads again)

Its about the same as Avante's reasoning that evolution is bogus. It's hopelessly misinformed.
If he thinks winning one season is a validation that he really is good at this, give it some time, he will eventually regress to .500, and with that 10% off the top, that's a loser. Vegas welcomes him.

Other than the Niners who I would have jumped off because of the Aldon Smith situation, that system currenty sits at 36-26-2. That's a nice little profit.

And if you knew anything at all about NFL wagering you'd be very aware of how history plays a huge part in it. Only fools and rookies ignore history.

I'm at over $2000 to the good ($1580 here) betting angles/trends/history. Looking for "spots" that favor a side. Up above I played an under with a 10-0 trend attached to it, now it's 11-0.

What happens is fools like yourself simply can't figure out what beating the NFL point spread is really all about. They just don't get it.

I started off in the hole 330, so why was I never worried and kept..."calm down it gets easier"..it was because I know what I'm doing and always end up winning $$$$$...always.

Most guys don't have a clue what to look for, they don't understand how these teams do in whatever role they are in that week. Most wouldn't even get....role.

Since week one...64-45...that is what I usually hit, around 55-60% 66-48 on the internet and if not for bogus weather reports...68-48. That rivals anyone out there.

As we saw it's not as entertaining/fun when I'm winning, but it was funny watching..."YOU SUCK!"...to...crickets (damn he's legit)....hahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!

I really don't like doing all the work and then handing out free $$$$$, that's why I was reluctant to give out legit $$$$ making plays. But......I finally decided to shut up the dumb kids here and as we saw....I did.


As far as evolution goes, there are still too many..."could have"..."maybe"...."good chance"..."not certain but"...involved with it.

[Avante]

This looks funny....

Tom Brady
Aaron Rodgers
Peyton Manning
Russell Wilson
Andrew Luck
Tony Romo
Joe Flacco

Cam Newton????

[Avante]

One of the great running backs in pro football history. A 9.2 sprinter while in college.

Who?

[Avante]

Ok my picks...

I can't play 11 points. I can see the Seahawks at 24-7 ish late in game, then the Panthers score a garbage td...24-14.

I can see the Ravens hanging close, but want to root for the Pats, so no play. NE 24 Balt 20 looks about right.

If Rodgers was 100% I;m laying the 6, what happened if he gets hurt? No play!

Ok, finally....

Without a running game, there's Luck in third and 6ish all day long. While Peyton will spend the day in third and short, there's the game. Denver 28 Indy 20. So will lay the 7.

110 to win 100.

Have yet to lose a over/under play, I just can't find one this week.

[spurraider21]

One of the great running backs in pro football history. A 9.2 sprinter while in college.

Who?

andy hopkins

[Avante]

andy hopkins

Interesting story....

One of the nations fastest sprinters with his 9.2 while at Stephen F. Austin. Ended up with the Houston Oilers, for some reason he didn't make it there. Ended up in the CFL where he tore it up.

Thing about this guy is a real case can be made that he is the fastest running back to ever play pro football. And......he's totally lost in obscurity.

Curtis ey who also ran a 9.2/10.10 the fastest RB ever to make an pro football team and star in the NFL. But.....Hopkins ran his 9.2 long before ey which makes it superior.

[Avante]

I posted this prior to the playoffs.

Ranking the playoff teams by points scored/given up.

The number will be like this...scored 468 given up 313 so....plus 15. 46 over 31.

1.NE 15
2.Sea 14
3.GB 14
4.Den 13
5.Dall 11
6.Balt 10
7.Indy 9
8.Pitt 7
9.Det 4
10.Cincy 2
11.Ariz 2
12. Caro minus 4....thank God for the weak NFC South


That is about straight up. So far...3-1, but that Ariz QB situation can't be ignored.

[Avante]

Better QB at home....let's see how that plays out today.

So far...3-1

According to that theory...

Brady over Flacco
Rodgers over Romo
Manning over Luck
RW over Newton

Change the word better to....more successful. All the ones on the left have won SB's. only Flacco on the right but Brady has more.

[Avante]

This was just too easy.

See ya in 30 days NLS, to buck all those trends....DUH!!!!!!!

DD hopefully ya learned your lesson, see you in 60 days.

Koolaid Man Brother, I feel sorry for ya ya little , you can slither on back after 90 days, if.....you stay away from me....ok?

Anyone out there still not getting Russell Wilson? He's that smart black QB like Warren Moon, a mobile. intelligent guy who knows how to win football games. Anyone ...still...not getting this?

So far the ...more successful QB at home.....is 5-1 in the playoffs. Little doubt Denver makes it 6-1. If.....Aaron Rodgers doesn't reinjure that calf. 7-1.

Russell Wilson at his stage of a career is the most successful QB in pro football history. Nobody has been more successful. Now ya know why I was as high on him as I am, I knew he'd be special.

[Avante]

It's come full circle.

Those 60's Packer teams had receivers nobody here as ever heard of. They had a smart QB who rarely made mistakes. They had a monster back in Jim Taylor and a D with four future HOFers on it. And.....a great coach.

Hmmmm?

[Pelicans78]

Seattle's a very hard team to beat. Takes a team with an extremely physical running game and physical defense and no one else in the playoffs has that combo.

[Avante]

Seattle's a very hard team to beat. Takes a team with an extremely physical running game and physical defense and no one else in the playoffs has that combo.

The key to winning in the NFL is....

1.win the turnover battle
2.run the ball
3.stuff the run

No team does that better.

They have the best, Coach/QB/Defense...trio in the league.

Add all that up and they are the team to beat again this season.

[Pelicans78]

The key to winning in the NFL is....

1.win the turnover battle
2.run the ball
3.stuff the run

No team does that better.

They have the best, Coach/QB/Defense...trio in the league.

Add all that up and they are the team to beat again this season.

The Pats were the better team throughout the regular season mainly because Seattle's offense hadn't been as strong as the previous two seasons while the Pats offense was very good and the Pats defense pretty good as well. We learned more about the Pats today beating a strong Ravens team while the Seahawks cruised in the 4th against a weaker Panthers team. I think Seattle has a better chance against Green Bay than Dallas though depending on that Simon dude to be the number two corner could be a nightmare scenario against Rodgers.

[Avante]

The Pats were the better team throughout the regular season mainly because Seattle's offense hadn't been as strong as the previous two seasons while the Pats offense was very good and the Pats defense pretty good as well. We learned more about the Pats today beating a strong Ravens team while the Seahawks cruised in the 4th against a weaker Panthers team. I think Seattle has a better chance against Green Bay than Dallas though depending on that Simon dude to be the number two corner could be a nightmare scenario against Rodgers.

If the Cowboys can win another on the road that would tell us they are a serious threat, but.....there is no doubt the Seahawks have a score to settle having lost to them in 2014. I think they'd be more stoked for the Cowboys.

The Packers are better than the Cowboys, and would be a harder out.

[Avante]

Jordy Nelson was a Kansas State 100/200/400 and long jump champ. He was a 10.6 guy. Not too bad, for a white guy. His 48 second 400m is why nobody runs him down, he has that...speed endurance.

What a shame Russell Wilson doesn't have a T.Y.Hilton to throw to.

What's with all these Cal backs?

What a shame Carson Palmer got hurt. With him the Cards would have been a real threat.

I do doubt the Ravens beat the Steelers if Bell would have played.

Kaepernick working with Kurt Warner, he needs it.

Tom Brady........wow~~~~~~~~

I think Kelvin Benjamin is going to make it, ha~~~~~~~~~~~

Sure Newton looked bad vs Seattle but who doesn't?

Andrew Luck will throw at least one pick later today.

[Avante]

DD why are you still here?

[Avante]

As we are seeing that home field advantage is huge...if...these teams are healthy. I have no doubts the Steelers beat the Ravens with Bell there.

I expect to see more of that today, barring injuries....Broncos/Packers move on.

Next week we will have the better QB on the road, While young RW is a great QB he isn't on a par with Aaron Rodgers.