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I thought he had a good case for Finals MVP. Not that I didn't think Kawhi had been terrific, but I thought Boris in that finals series was as good as Kawhi in his contributions. He is maybe the smartest passer and best i.q. player on the team.
I agree in part with your observations. I am on record as saying that Parker's talent was never the same level as many others, even on this team. He is, imo, a complete product of Pop teaching him to be what Pop wanted him to be.
I disagree with the part about having "less to do with mileage", because I think your own observations belie the reality of your position.
Parker's role in the offense after Duncan began HIS decline was to run the loop play while Duncan held the ball slightly outside of the paint, and the wings parked themselves on the corners to be available for three point kick-outs. Duncan was to survey the situation and decide whether the ball should go back to TP as he came around the loop, send it to one of the wings, or take it himself to the basket. If everyone was covered, Duncan would return the ball to Parker, who would then once again probe the lane, shoot from the lane (or threaten to shoot from the lane so as to force the defense to collapse on him), and then Parker once again run around.
It does not add to your credibility to deny how much mileage Parker has in comparison to others, or to deny his historic courage in penetrating into the paint and taking the beatings that he has taken from the other teams' bigs in the paint.
I agree that Tony has lost AT LEAST a step so far this year, and I don't know if he can get it back. He has NEVER had the raw talent that a Manu (or likely Diaw) has had in passing ability or court vision. But he has done what has been asked of him year in and year out for Pop. Do you imagine for one second that if he DIDN"T do what Pop wanted that Pop wouldn't have sent him packing before this? Seriously?
What is making me nuts about Parker this year is that he keeps making such bad decisions.
It took Tim a couple of years to give up on being the dominant role in the offense. It took Manu a couple of years to accept that his body wouldn't allow him to do what it used to be able to do. That is where I see Tony now - can he figure out how to help the team now as he is no longer the dominant force that he was for a while. I don't know if he can. I think it will require some help from Pop to do it. But if Pop wants him to do it, Tony will try to do what Pop wants - that much I am positive about.
We didn't throw Tim under the bus when he was struggling to change his role in 2010 - 2012 and making 22 Million dollars a year. We didn't throw Manu under the bus when he got to the point that he really can't play WELL for more than about 17-20 minutes per game, and I don't expect us to throw Tony under the bus now that he has lost a step and needs help with the offense.
I just hope like that the coaching staff can change the offensive set around to let TP help in the ways that the others of the Big Three have been able to help as they declined.
I thought he had a good case for Finals MVP. Not that I didn't think Kawhi had been terrific, but I thought Boris in that finals series was as good as Kawhi in his contributions. He is maybe the smartest passer and best i.q. player on the team.
Which is undoubtedly why you worded the le of this thread the way you did.Please, this thread is to celebrate Boris 2.0... there's plenty of threads about det other topic...
Isn't Tony from Belgium?
Litmus test for the levels of Tony v. Manu adherents?
In a fairly subtle way...
So sorry. Didn't realize that you were unaware that although he was born in Belgium, he was raised in Paris, started his professional career in Paris, has consdered himself French - oh, and since you are probably equally unaware of this fact - is the same age as Boris, played with Boris as teenagers and have played with Boris on the French national team.
Anything else I can help you with about Tony's background before he came to the Spurs?
Not the least it subtle, tbh. And for many of us, we support both players. Some of us (not naming any names of course) only CLAIM to support both Manu and Tony, while sarcastically undercutting Tony at every opportunity.
Maybe he can be 3B, big butt Bobo
come on, some people had a good laugh, that's what it's all about. This thread doesn't change anything about Bobo, Tony or anybody else.
Genetically speaking, Tony isn't even French. Half Dutch, half American. Don't know why Evay is getting so butthurt about this thread. Diaw is the only one that qualifies as a true Frenchie on this team.
way to backpedal, per par.
TBH, I'm not the least bit upset about any thread celebrating Diaw, for all the reasons I have stated earlier in this thread and in others ( his talent, his contribution to our success last year, etc. etc. etc.).
I get upset with not-very-subtle digs by someone who continually talks out of both sides of his mouth about Tony. "Oh, I love Tony, etc. etc." and at the same time continually takes cheap shots at him, all the while stating afterwards "hey, I'm just joking man"...didn't mean that at all.
At least some posters are up front about their hatred. It may be misplaced, imo, but at least it is honest.
Okay maybe not fairly.
So we bring out the posters who would rather be correct in THEIR assessments/prognostications at the expense of another championship (if these were the only choices). I would love to have this whole site blowed up if it would somehow lead to #6.
Pink me, allow me to only read apalosic9 threads
If it leadsf to #6
Banish me for christsakes
if it leads to #6
Stretch my eyelid out and put it under the leg of a chair then sit on that chair
if it leads to #6
So - I've overcooked it a bit... with the eyelid thing.
Nothing wrong with Nono's thread. Diaw's the only 32 year old Frenchman on the Spurs. Tony's Dutch-American. I'm not seeing any subtle digs here.
It's okay. Personally, I get it. And I can handle hyperbole better than hypocrisy, tbh.
Is there anything non-factual about the thread le that bothers you?
And Nono is a great politician imo.
Also one of the posters who holds this site together.
We got the middle school drama IV's needed by a number of supposedly grown men?
I personally can't possibly keep up with all the little spats so readly admit to some social ignorance concerning this site.
Boris is a cool guy. He's got the NBA career I want. Huge part of a championship team getting paid millions of dollars but still be fat as tbh.
The whole "inspired by re-watching Game 4 of the Finals" part is all true, tbh... can't stop going back and taking a peek at what this team looks like when everyone is healthy...
He also gets to hang with the fun kids if the photos with teammates are telling.
Manu, Patty, Tiago, Boris...
That too. They seem like a fun bunch that don't take themselves too seriously off the court tbh.
Basketball orgasm it is.
The most beautiful basketball ever seen on the planet in that series.
Personally, I would be thrilled to see Tony never play another SECOND for this team if it means we would play better. And, tbh, if Tony doesn't get at least CLOSER to where he can be, or else change his approach on the court (which is what I really expect is needed), then he should sit for players who can contribute more.
And that is true for any player on the team, imo.
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