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    I didn't watch the NFL in the early 90s/late 80s, obviously, but didn't Montana have the greatest NFL player of all-time as his WR for the majority of his time?

    Brady looked pretty good with Moss at WR..

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    I didn't watch the NFL in the early 90s/late 80s, obviously, but didn't Montana have the greatest NFL player of all-time as his WR for the majority of his time?

    Brady looked pretty good with Moss at WR..
    True, but Montana also won two Super Bowls before Rice. He did play with great defenses as well, but dude was a surgeon back in the day even against great defenses though he did get his head kicked in by Parcells's Giants a few times. He showed a tremendous amount of poise. The most impressive game I remember he played was with the Chiefs when he went to the Astrodome against the number one defense in the league and picked apart Buddy Ryan's Oilers defense. He was almost 40 by then but he took the Chiefs to the AFC le game at Buffalo where a first quarter concussion knocked him out of the game.

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    LMAO,,,,he's not winning another ring and will go down as a fraud without Spygate and a FG kicker. If you think he will beat the Packers or Seahawks in the Super Bowl,,,,,you are an idiot.

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    Montana, Unitas, Graham are firmly entrenched as the top 3, tbh.

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    Yeah lets see those numbers.
    Wonder how many more Joe would have if both he and the 49ers D knew the f'ing plays about to be run by the opponent.
    That's the thing with the Pats. Belichick and Brady are HoFers but they have that secret weapon in Ernie Adams, a legit idiot savant. He was at the epicenter of Spygate and no other team has a RainMan that can figure out defenses and signals like him. Supposedly when BB was a D Coordinator for the Giants he "procured" a copy of the other team's playbook the night before and Adams memorized it in one night. Crazy. there are lots of crazy stories like that surrounding this guy.

    so having someone like him tell Brady what to expect on every down helps a lot, helps with protection schemes etc...

    Coughlin knows those 2 very well and when the Giants faced them in the first SB, he had the defense change their signals every quarter.

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    True, but Montana also won two Super Bowls before Rice. He did play with great defenses as well, but dude was a surgeon back in the day even against great defenses though he did get his head kicked in by Parcells's Giants a few times. He showed a tremendous amount of poise. The most impressive game I remember he played was with the Chiefs when he went to the Astrodome against the number one defense in the league and picked apart Buddy Ryan's Oilers defense. He was almost 40 by then but he took the Chiefs to the AFC le game at Buffalo where a first quarter concussion knocked him out of the game.
    and brady won all of his before moss

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    Montana, Unitas, Graham are firmly entrenched as the top 3, tbh.
    avante-like take

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    This is something of an impossible comparison, since we have no idea how Montana and that offense would flourish under Goodell Ball, which has inflated QB performance to the moon. It's kind of like comparing Wilt (who played in an offensively inflated era) to a modern day player, so you can't simply line up Montana's stats vs. Brady's and call it a day.

    We have to chicken out and do the "era" thing here, and no doubt Brady is the best of his era, just like Joe is the best of his.
    Last edited by midnightpulp; 01-12-2015 at 01:03 AM.

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    If Brady loses against the Colts and Luck or Seattle or Green Bay,,,his legacy is as crushed as Kobricks in the NBA. He cant win without Spygate,,,,it is what it is,,,

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    If Brady loses against the Colts and Luck or Seattle or Green Bay,,,his legacy is as crushed as Kobricks in the NBA. He cant win without Spygate,,,,it is what it is,,,
    Who is this ing moron?

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    It's Montana. Those who disagree must not have seen him in his prime.

    Say what you want about teammates, coaching, career stats, injuries, whatever - game on the line, I'm taking Montana over anyone else.

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    Who is this ing moron?
    LMAO!!!!!!!!!!

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    Montana was a cold blooded assassin. It's laughable that people are comparing Joe Cool to Rodgers. Brady's close though.

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    Montana was a cold blooded assassin. It's laughable that people are comparing Joe Cool to Rodgers. Brady's close though.
    Rodgers really reminds me of him; more than Brady at least. Their styles of play and overall personalities are very similar (albeit Montana doesn't dream of s). In terms of achievements Brady isn't too far off, but the gap exists.

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    Based on raw ability, Rodgers is the best QB I've ever seen, tbh..his only flaw is that he holds the ball for too long..

    He makes passes that I can't imagine other QBs making, and he does it on the move, too..10 for 10 to end the game today, clutch as ..

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    Based on raw ability, Rodgers is the best QB I've ever seen, tbh..his only flaw is that he holds the ball for too long..

    He makes passes that I can't imagine other QBs making, and he does it on the move, too..10 for 10 to end the game today, clutch as ..

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    drafting Alex Smith ahead of Rodgers..

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    drafting Alex Smith ahead of Rodgers..
    the raiders drafted Fabian Washington one pick before Rodgers was drafted

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    the raiders drafted Fabian Washington one pick before Rodgers was drafted
    Sure, but at least that's not a QB..

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    drafting Alex Smith ahead of Rodgers..
    Even if Niners drafted him I'm not sure he would've turned out as good. Those Niner teams were abysmal, truly the dark ages. Plus Rodgers got a lot of help in his development with the staff and learning under Favre.

    ....but yes we really ed that up.
    i don't blame him for taking a jab at the Niners during his MVP speech.

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    The Niners' FO back then was ing re ed. They went for names and numbers without thinking about style of play, ability, or even the god damn fact that college football isn't NFL football.

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    Who is this ing moron?

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    and brady won all of his before moss
    And lost his since.

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    This is something of an impossible comparison, since we have no idea how Montana and that offense would flourish under Goodell Ball, which has inflated QB performance to the moon. It's kind of like comparing Wilt (who played in an offensively inflated era) to a modern day player, so you can't simply line up Montana's stats vs. Brady's and call it a day.

    We have to chicken out and do the "era" thing here, and no doubt Brady is the best of his era, just like Joe is the best of his.
    yup

    it's like avante with his first 3 years record or whatever...

    If you look at TDs, yards and stuff this era inflates the number of QBs on every possible way. For the little I saw I still consider Montana as number 1, he put some crazy good numbers even in his tougher era for QBs.

    I like him at 1, 2 Brady then Aaron, Elway/Marino ?

    I'm limiting myself at QBs tho, it's quite easy to follow this position for a foreigner, much more complicated to judge the other positions I heard Rice was pretty good. One of the few name that crossed the atlantic out of the QBs in the 90's was Emmitt Smith

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    Montana, Unitas, Graham are firmly entrenched as the top 3, tbh.
    Really? Based on what advanced metrics? How many games of those 3 have YOU watched total? Even on NFL filims?

    I think Brady with another ring isnear the top of the 5 best I have ever seen: Montana, Marino, Elway, Brady Manning. if you take out Marino (because he didnt close then you) add Farve. Rodgershas a chance to kock off one of those 5 with another ring. Brady is debatable as teh #1 with another ring ...

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