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If he's at rock bottom, doesn't that mean he'll only improve from now on?
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If he's at rock bottom, doesn't that mean he'll only improve from now on?
Who said he was at rock bottom?
wow... not nice
Premature ejaculation thread. Tony is playing poorly. But 10 posts every game by the same handful of posters shows trolling or obsession. TP is improving his speed every game, which is the core improvement needed. In a month, I am hopeful that he will be at least as fast as he was in 2014 when he was clicking, but who knows.
Some of you younger, less experienced posters need to stop, unless you are just whoring for attention. Any valuable posters on this site are being driven away. A forum is not just a place to yourself for attention like some resurrected MySpace.
Right now TP to me has a confidence problem and is forcing things a bit. At the same time, like Derrick Rose, he seems to be favoring his hamstring and is overly cautious in turning on the jets -- hence the two blocks by Humphries last night.
Bashing your own players like hater an TGY do is just lame.
His conditioning is off right now. He runs a tremendous amount when he is right and the offense is right.
I thought he looked a little better last night, but he is by no means at 100% and fully functioning like he has in the past.
Lots of gotry itt
I agree he has lost a step from his prime, but he's not 100% healthy and in shape either, so I'd say these stats are not indicative of what he's still capable of. What would you do if you were Pop? Just sit him and not use him at all? It's easy to be an internet coach, where there are no actual decisions to be made...
In the month of November, he played every game, was healthy, and put up 16.7ppg & 5.9 apg while shooting FGs @ 50% and 3ptFGs @ 55.6%. The Spurs were 11-3 for that month. You can't just ignore those numbers while focusing on his post-injury/rusty games.
The excuses
No excuses, just facts.
Conveniently ignoring the fact that Leonard played all of November. Of course the team's record will be good when their MVP was healthy for all of that month. The team needs Kawhi a lot more than it needs Enrique.
I'm not ignoring it at all. Yeah, teams are better when everyone's healthy. I never said Parker was more valuable than Kawhi either. Kawhi's clearly the most important guy on the team now, but you're so eager to disparage Parker that you imagine people are saying things they're not saying.
Here's another thing: don't you guys think Pop has noticed all of this too? He changed the offensive strategy from pounding it inside to Duncan to letting Parker penetrate more at one point, and now he has changed it from Parker taking the most shots to more ball movement/spacing/ 3 pt shooting. Some of you guys act like you see things that everyone else is somehow missing. Also, the idea that a guy known for quickness is losing some speed approaching age 33 is not surprising at all. Earlier in the season when he was healthy, Parker was shooting more threes per game than his average the past five years... it makes sense.
But everybody wasn't healthy. The key difference between the Spurs playing well in November and then playing terrible afterwards is Kawhi. Attributing that 11-3 record to Enrique is giving him too much credit. IIRC, his On-Off numbers weren't even that great back then either.
Again, I didn't "attribute" anything to him. I simply pointed out that you can't cherry-pick stats to make an argument. The reason the Spurs have been so great for so long is that they are capable of looking at the big picture and making rational decisions... too many people here respond emotionally to losses with so-and-so sucks, trade him, rebuild the team! What do you propose Pop should do? Put Parker at the end of the bench, and never play him?
Some more stats about TP's return. Here's Parker'a Offensive Rating and Defensive Rating for the month of January:
68 - ORtg
107 - DRtg
That ORtg is scary bad for a starting point guard.
Ho hum. Cherry picking stats again. What do propose Pop should do? Play Parker less than Ayres?
The only one cherry-picking stats was you:
"In the month of November, he played every game, was healthy, and put up 16.7ppg & 5.9 apg while shooting FGs @ 50% and 3ptFGs @ 55.6%. The Spurs were 11-3 for that month. You can't just ignore those numbers"
lol only talking about November
lol ignoring the months when Kawhi was out with injury
Here's how I view it: The Spurs re-signed their effective back up PG for a good salary and are developing Cojo (a guy many people here on Spurstalk said was just a few months ago) beautifully. They're also focusing on more offensive involvement for Kawhi (when healthy) and more ball movement. Seems pretty smart to me.
The thread is led Parker's stats since "returning". Those numbers were pertinent to the current discussion. If you want to make a "Tony Parker was awesome in the month of November" thread, you're free to do so.
Do you want to propose anything, or do you just like complaining?
The take here seems to predominantly be "Parker is aging and I'm enraged by that." It's kinda stupid.
No the take here is "Parker is an overrated selfish jealous piece of got"
I already addressed it.
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