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i want this fight.
true, this is why this legacy fight is more on floyd than manny. he publicly markets himself as a "smart" fighter. a fighter who prides himself in taking the least amount of damage while making the most money in the history of boxing. you can't hate him on that, i actually respect him in that regards since he seems to put his family and himself above everything else.
but as a boxing fan, i have selfish reasons. i want to see the best fighter take on the other best fighter of his era. all this unbeatable record talk is meaningless. the best boxers in history have losing record. you fight the best you're going to get knocked a few times in your career.
i want this fight.
Seriously, people act like Mayweather is ing dudes up. s lose and go to the club later that night looking the same as before the fight
but seriously, you think manny can beat floyd?Seriously, people act like Mayweather is ing dudes up. s lose and go to the club later that night looking the same as before the fight
you geeks don't know about the business. its not up to floyd yet. even if he says yes, showtime and HBO will have to hammer out an agreement which could put a stop to it all. damn yall need to catch up
who thinks that? and it doesn't matter how they look, they took an L.Seriously, people act like Mayweather is ing dudes up. s lose and go to the club later that night looking the same as before the fight
The hbo-showtime agreement isn't a huge issue, it has been done before (Lennox Lewis-Tyson iirc) so im sure they'll work out the numbers amicably.
These little es just looking for a great white hope...he done respectfully kicked every Mexicans ass....he beat some negroes....dropped that white boy Hatton and the human catfish Manny is their last hope. ...they want this to lose so bad because they are racists....The Pacster has been blood doping, using roids for years and white America turns a blind eye to it....refusing to take Olympic style drug tests on the basis of being supers ious told me all I needed to know about the Packster. ...and then white America spinning the story to say Floyd was scared. ..these white folks are the most immoral SOB's on the planet....
And lastly they claim Floyd hasn't fought anyone. .lol check his career opponents....a Prime Floyd outshines Manny any day. ..even now...and people say Manny is old forgetting that Floyd is actually older than Manny. ...and save the Manny fought more argument he should have if he was roiding up...
Koolaid_Man
summed it up perfectly. and these san antonio mexicans hate him just as much. i made so much money after mayweather gave canelo a boxing lesson. they really thought canelo had a chance lol
ALEX ARIZA SAYS BOB ARUM WILL "CHARLIE BROWN" FANS WITH MAYWEATHER-PACQUIAO: "HE'LL PULL THE FOOTBALL AWAY"
By Ben Thompson | January 13, 2015
BT: Alex, welcome back to the States. We're not even two weeks into the new year and there's already been a lot of changes in boxing, but obviously the biggest news that fans are getting excited about is the possibility of Mayweather vs. Pacquiao finally happening.
AA: I know that Floyd wants this fight with Manny very, very, very badly. He wants this fight more than ever right now. I haven't known him that long, but I don't think I've ever heard him talk about wanting to fight anybody this much. He usually doesn't care who he fights. It could be this guy or that guy, but he really wants to fight Manny.
BT: With all the rumors about negotiations allegedly progressing, are you at least optimistic that the fight might actually happen this time?
AA: Look, of course I know and I'm privy to how one side [Team Pacquiao] works. And now I know a little about the other side [Team Mayweather] and how badly they want the fight. But I'm just going off of what I've known over the last four years. No, I'm not optimistic [about Mayweather vs. Pacquiao happening]. I know Bob [Arum] and I know that he's the one standing in the way of this, and that's why, for me, this fight isn't going to happen. Now is no different than the last five years; the determining factor on whether or not this fight is going to happen lies with Bob.
BT: One report claimed that the venue and drug testing has already been agreed to and some are speculating that the fight is close to being signed. With Michael Koncz saying that they spoke to Mayweather's people...
AA: (Cutting in) Michael Koncz said that he's talking to Mayweather's people? What people is he talking about? Listen, Mayweather's people consist of two people: Mayweather and Al Haymon. If he can't name those two people, then he's not talking to people. That's just another reason why I'm disillusioned about the chances of this fight happening. Professionals don't speak publicly on negotiations. Koncz and Bob have been talking nonsense, giving bread crumbs to a bunch of ing starving pigeons who want to write anything. They're at Central Park with a bunch of ing starving pigeons with press credentials around their necks just throwing them bread crumbs, and they're eating that up, pecking each other death to write something. Believe me, I want the fight to happen, maybe more than anyone, but I'm just waiting here for the football to get pulled away. It's better for me if I'm wrong, but I'm telling you, I think it's all an illusion. You get these reporters that are ing drinking that up as if they've been in the desert for six months; they're drinking it up, they're putting it out there, it looks all good, and then in the end, Bob Arum will Charlie Brown us. I just don't get all worked up over any of that anymore. They agreed to the venue? Big deal! Where else are they going to have that fight? They agreed to drug testing? Duh! They've got no choice. I just don't think those reports are a big deal at all.
BT: Honestly, at first, I kind of got that same feeling as well when Arum suggested that it would be disrespectful to Mexican fans if the fight took place on May 2, during Cinco de Mayo weekend. But then...
AA: (Cutting in) How is that disrespectful? Talk about making excuses. So you want to stop the biggest fight in the history of the sport possibly because you're afraid of offending Mexican fans, who actually want to see the fight too? He's got no problems ripping them off and charging Julio [Cesar Chavez Jr.] 50% of everything he makes, or not paying the guy's taxes for six years. That's not disrespectful? He didn't mind tricking Julio into signing extensions by pretending that it's a visa. That's not disrespectful? It's disrespectful to put the biggest fight in boxing history on May 2nd, but let me rip off the prince of Mexico. Let me put him on the shelf for a year, or let me put Mikey Garcia on the shelf for a year. That's not disrespectful to the Mexicans? Chavez wants to fight Froch on the 28th of March, but Bob is telling the whole world that he's not, and that's not disrespectful? He's trying to prevent this dude from earning a living and feeding his family, but that's not disrespectful? Come on, Ben.
BT: True. That said, nobody from Team Mayweather is commenting on or disputing any of the reports, so that's probably why so many people are getting hopeful that the fight will finally get made this time.
AA: Nobody on this side needs to comment because Floyd has done everything with actions. The very first time they tried to negotiate the fight, it was Floyd who initiated that dialogue. Floyd has made offers. Whether you agree or disagree with the offer, the fact is Floyd is at least taking action and offering. Manny, all he's doing is talking. He hasn't done anything with actions. It's very easy to jump in front of a group of reporters and say, "Yeah, I want the fight." Talk is cheap. If you want this fight to happen, act like you want this fight to happen. There's been no consistency on that side. To sit there and turn offer after offer down, and then turn around and say you'll fight for free and you'll do it for charity, to me, that doesn't show somebody who really wants to fight somebody. How realistic is that? You've just taken the seriousness out of the negotiation when you say you'll fight for free. I mean seriously, at that point, you lose me. When you say that you'll fight for free and let's do it for charity, do you really want me to take you seriously? It begs the question, are you taking this seriously? You shouldn't be joking about fighting for free, seriously, because all you do is you make a joke of it. When Stephen Espinoza says that they'll offer you $40 million and 35% of pay-per-view, and a week later you turn down the offer and say you'll take less money and you'll fight for free, you've made the whole thing trivial. You've made the whole negotiations just seem trivial, so at that point, it doesn't become serious anymore, or it tells me you're not taking it serious. I mean, for me, actions speak louder than words. Manny's just talking to the public and his publicist is tweeting and they're giving you guys some crumbs to write about and get some clicks, but that's about it. I mean, come on, everybody knows Manny doesn't know what ing hash tags are. Manny doesn't tweet or keep up with hash tagging or stuff like that. Having a publicist tweet a couple of things to get some headlines, you're not fooling anybody with that. It just makes us not want to say anything because he's clearly not taking this serious. Behind the scenes, he's not showing any of us that he wants the fight.
Manny needs to stand up and take control of his . At the end of the day, Manny's just a guy who's told when to fight, who to fight, and how much to fight, period! Don't be afraid to do something because you're scared you might get in trouble with Bob. When you're vague, to me, that means that you're not serious or that you're afraid to say something. Seriously Ben, if he's okay with a 60/40 split or whatever, then come out and say, "I accept that offer and Bob's got 30 days to close that deal or I'll go to the commission or I'll do whatever I have to do." Do something! Take some sort of serious action that's going to force Bob to get you what you want. This is the same thing that I've said over the last four years. Even though Floyd's the only one who's ever made an offer, at the end of the day, they're still going to blame Floyd if the fight doesn't happen. Regardless of what's being written out there, personally, I think Bob is going to make everybody believe that the fight is going to happen and then he's going to Charlie Brown us; he's going to pull the football away and then blame it on Floyd.
http://fighthype.com/news/article19007.html
Can he? Yes. Would I bet on it? No, I think May wins that fight by running and throwing a few shots
Brian Nielsen was also undefeated and a legend in Denmark before an old Tyson went and ed him up. Whats your point?
Arum said he believes Mayweather's hesitation stems from a style concern with the left-handed Pacquiao.
"He doesn't want to fight southpaws," Arum said of Mayweather. "The worst possible opponent for him is Pacquiao.
"He's afraid to lose."
LOL trusting the white Don King ...
Dan Rafael is nothing but a Bob Arum Shill. Like I said before... there is no contract and Manny is allowing himself to be played like a fiddle.
STEPHEN ESPINOZA REFUTES ARUM AND KONCZ: "NO CONTRACT HAS BEEN DRAFTED...WE'RE STILL TRYING TO MAKE THE FIGHT"
According to Showtime Sports Executive Vice President and General Manager Stephen Espinoza, discussions are still ongoing and no contracts have been drafted for the long-awaited mega-fight between undefeated pound-for-pound king Floyd Mayweather and 8-division world champion Manny Pacquiao. The news comes on the heels of statements made by both Bob Arum and Michael Koncz suggesting that all parties have agreed to terms, Pacquiao has already signed a contract, and they're just waiting on Mayweather to sign his end of the deal.
For the past week, Arum, Koncz and Pacquiao have informed anyone and everyone within earshot that they have agreed to all terms and "signed off" on their end of the deal. YouTube videos seem to be popping up daily showing Koncz, Arum and Pacquiao all sending the same message: sign the contract! In one interview, Koncz suggested that "in principle, there is a contract signed by Manny." In another interview, Arum went so far as to say, "We're all done. We've signed everything. We've agreed on all the terms. As far as we know, we've been told by the highest authority that Mayweather's people have agreed, the networks have agreed, but like they say, you can't do a play about Hamlet without Hamlet, and Hamlet, meaning Mayweather, has not yet signed on."
In the early hours of the morning, however, Espinoza took to Twitter to refute the claims made by all three men. When asked point blank by one of his followers why Mayweather has yet to sign, Espinoza replied, "Signing what? No contract has been drafted yet." As others began sharing some of the YouTube videos with him, Espinoza added, "What the is everyone signing???" He also explained that negotiations were still ongoing, contradicting statements made by Arum suggesting that everything is done. It seems as though yesterday, someone was lying and today, someone is telling the truth. Check out some of Espinoza's tweets below:
http://www.fighthype.com/news/article19141.html
not always but sometimes you are right ...but they lose all the same.Seriously, people act like Mayweather is ing dudes up. s lose and go to the club later that night looking the same as before the fight
Fail. Pacman has downed more mexicans than Floyd ever will. And the good ones, not the under card ones.
summed it up perfectly. and these san antonio mexicans hate him just as much. i made so much money after mayweather gave canelo a boxing lesson. they really thought canelo had a chance lol
Canelo Alverez
Marquez
Dela Hoya
Jose Castillio
Genaro Hernandez
Those were champions and some all-time Mexican greats in Hernandez, Marquez and Hernandez. Canelo is better than any fighter that Pacfish has faced.
Arum has zero credibility and is ruining the sport
Paquiao beat 2 of the top 5 Mexican legends at their peak (multiple times):
Barrera
Morales
not to mention a number of young upcoming fighters that Floyd dodged for years
Márquez
Larios
Díaz
Margarito
wow
i'm a huge manny fan tbh, but the only thing that's keeping me away from believing manny's camp 100% is Bob Arum..That old fart is the s of the earth. That said, I'm leaning towards their story though since they are the more aggressive side.
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